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Is it time for the IET to conduct a new Salary Survey - for the benefit of all UK and Ireland Members and Employers?








Is it about time that the IET carried out another UK and Ireland Engineering Salary Survey before Brexit Chaos Ensues ? On 6 Feb 1998 the IEE received responses from some 10,575 UK and Eire based Fellows, Members, Associate Members and Associates at a time when the total UK wide IEE Membership was 69,775. The recent Salary Survey 2019 - published in The Engineer Magazine in collaboration with CBS Butler received responses from just 1568 engineers covering 12 engineering sectors, ranging from Academia, through Rail and Infrastructure, Defence and Security, Automotive, Aerospace, Telecomms/Electronics, Food and Drink, Chemicals, Oil and Gas and Energy/renewables/nuclear, 3 levels of responsibility (Junior, Senior/Manager and Director) and 6 geographical regions. This works out to be 12 x 3 x 6 groups spread over 1568 data points i.e. an average of just 7 data points per cell. Needless to say this Survey could not show either salary medians, upper and lower quartiles nor any analysis on the basis of Class of Membership e.g. Chartered, Incorporated, Technician. By comparison the IEE Salary Survey 1998 covered six responsibility levels and was able to show meaningful statistical data by age group in 5 year age bands from graduation to retirement. The IET alone now has 168,000 members in 150 countries world wide, surely a golden opportunity for a New Salary Survey? The President Elect, Dr Peter Bonfield asked us, at his recent address, entitled 'The Future of Engineering' given on 3rd July 2019, at The University of Hertford, for suggestions to facilitate the ongoing advancement of the IET Profession both individually, collectively, educationally, and reputationally in the public eye in order to encourage many more bright youngsters and school leavers to take Professional Engineering in the UK as their career of first choice. Maybe this survey would provide an up to date view of where we are and where we need to make improvements for the sake of all our futures.




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  • Thanks for your response Andy. I have a range of views and drivers for promoting this idea. Historically, I found it very useful from 1976 to 1998 to be able to use the very detailed and comprehensive IEE annual salary survey to see how I was doing relative to my peers. Being in one of the most popular areas of work, Telecommunications Systems R&D in a private industry, I was able to find where my salary sat in relation to those working in my field, in the same age group, responsibility level, geographical area, class of membership etc and gauge whether I was above or below the lower quartile and eventually developing my position through promotion and negotiation beginning to approach the median salary for my group. I was also able to use the IEE data to support my negotiation of salary when moving from one employer in the private sector in R&D to another field, namely a Senior Management Operational role in London, also in the private sector and then again when I moved into the Public Sector with OFTEL for a few years as a Senior Technical Specialist. I found the address given by the IET Vice President, Dr Peter Bonfield at the University of Hertford to be very inspiring - his work and achievements as a Consultant and Programme Manager/Director and his track record in the building industry and on various prestigious Govt. Enquiries and Initiatives has been is very impressive. His invitation to all those present to suggest where he might place his energies and areas of concentration when he takes up the role of IET President in October 2019, was very inspiring and several excellent ideas were floated during the extensive Q & A session after his address on 3rd July. It was suggested that all classes of membership should be embraced and encouraged in recognition of the significant contribution that each makes to the profession and it was agreed that action could be taken by the IET to banish the still prevalent impression amongst the general public, journalists and politicians, that Professional Engineers are generally poorly paid. Specifically, the average salaries published in the CBS Butler Engineering Salary Survey 2019 in The Engineer Magazine do nothing to dispel this myth as the data from the 1568 respondents was spread so thinly that no differentiation between Chartered, Incorporated or Technician Classes of Membership could be made with only 7 data points per cell and only 3 responsibility levels identified for each average salary headline figure. The Engineering Council published useful salary data in 2007, 2010 and 2013 but to date do not appear to have repeated the exercise. other than the publication of some partial information in 2016/17/18 about Registered Chartered Engineers being typically £6000 per annum better off than those who were not Registered. I certainly remember paying my £22 per annum to be registered with the CEI/Engineering Council throughout my career. It was also stated in the Q&A session with Dr Peter Bonfield - that we collectively need to do even more to go into schools to encourage youngsters to see that Professional Engineering is a worthwhile and rewarding career choice.
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  • Thanks for your response Andy. I have a range of views and drivers for promoting this idea. Historically, I found it very useful from 1976 to 1998 to be able to use the very detailed and comprehensive IEE annual salary survey to see how I was doing relative to my peers. Being in one of the most popular areas of work, Telecommunications Systems R&D in a private industry, I was able to find where my salary sat in relation to those working in my field, in the same age group, responsibility level, geographical area, class of membership etc and gauge whether I was above or below the lower quartile and eventually developing my position through promotion and negotiation beginning to approach the median salary for my group. I was also able to use the IEE data to support my negotiation of salary when moving from one employer in the private sector in R&D to another field, namely a Senior Management Operational role in London, also in the private sector and then again when I moved into the Public Sector with OFTEL for a few years as a Senior Technical Specialist. I found the address given by the IET Vice President, Dr Peter Bonfield at the University of Hertford to be very inspiring - his work and achievements as a Consultant and Programme Manager/Director and his track record in the building industry and on various prestigious Govt. Enquiries and Initiatives has been is very impressive. His invitation to all those present to suggest where he might place his energies and areas of concentration when he takes up the role of IET President in October 2019, was very inspiring and several excellent ideas were floated during the extensive Q & A session after his address on 3rd July. It was suggested that all classes of membership should be embraced and encouraged in recognition of the significant contribution that each makes to the profession and it was agreed that action could be taken by the IET to banish the still prevalent impression amongst the general public, journalists and politicians, that Professional Engineers are generally poorly paid. Specifically, the average salaries published in the CBS Butler Engineering Salary Survey 2019 in The Engineer Magazine do nothing to dispel this myth as the data from the 1568 respondents was spread so thinly that no differentiation between Chartered, Incorporated or Technician Classes of Membership could be made with only 7 data points per cell and only 3 responsibility levels identified for each average salary headline figure. The Engineering Council published useful salary data in 2007, 2010 and 2013 but to date do not appear to have repeated the exercise. other than the publication of some partial information in 2016/17/18 about Registered Chartered Engineers being typically £6000 per annum better off than those who were not Registered. I certainly remember paying my £22 per annum to be registered with the CEI/Engineering Council throughout my career. It was also stated in the Q&A session with Dr Peter Bonfield - that we collectively need to do even more to go into schools to encourage youngsters to see that Professional Engineering is a worthwhile and rewarding career choice.
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