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Career advice from senior or retired engineers

The purpose of this forum is highlight information from senior or retired engineers that will provide advice to new people entering the profession. 


The recent published articles by the IET:-

"Too old to be an engineer" in the E&T July 2019 magazine

"100,000 older workers kicked out of IBM, as company craved Googles Cool image" published August 1, 2019

started me thinking about the need to communicate advice on avoiding speed bumps during one's carrier.


During my 45+ years in engineer I have been laid off twice -once when I was 28 and again at 63.

I have worked for 9 companies in three countries where 8 of those companies are no longer in existence. 

Total time out of work has not exceeded 6 weeks.

I have made three complete changes in related technology/products.


Here is an example of the advice I received early on in my career:- "The young engineer knows the rules, the old engineer knows the exceptions" -- meaning even if one thinks one knows the answer ask the senior engineer if there is better solution.


Peter Brooks MIET

Palm Bay Florida USA


 

   


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  • Hello Andy:


    I do not have any problems with the 13 items that you outlined, but I do have additional comments, Using your paragraph numbers:-

    1 It also helps to stoke the senior engineers ego.

    2. By doing your homework ahead of the meeting you can make it a WIN-WIN situation. Remember when dealing with a customer you might want a job later with their company. 

    3. Being Truthful is always the best course. Making lies up means you will be caught out sometime in the future.

    4. OK

    5. OK

    6. Get to know the reputation of the people in the organization. It has been stated that between every NO person in the organization there is a YES person at a higher or lower level.

    7. This is right on- volunteering will get you additional job experience and makes a difference in getting another job later on.

    8. This is a major item- as you climb the ladder in a company you will reach a point where you have to decide which is more important your job or you family. It's a decision every one will be faced with in their mid 40's.

    9 This could be Bullying, and might be very dangerous to your health.

    10. Taking about the problems of your engineering manager with someone senior who "you trust"  who be very dangerous to your career. Even using the ER manager could cause problems.

    11.  Getting out to other companies allows one to network and possible obtain new job opportunities in their companies.

    12 . Don't get so close to senior staff that you burn (example when they get fired) or so far away that you freeze. 

    13. Very important to interface with the lower level people in the organization . They may have information you need for keeping your job.


    Peter Brooks MIET

    Palm Bay Florida USA
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  • Hello Andy:


    I do not have any problems with the 13 items that you outlined, but I do have additional comments, Using your paragraph numbers:-

    1 It also helps to stoke the senior engineers ego.

    2. By doing your homework ahead of the meeting you can make it a WIN-WIN situation. Remember when dealing with a customer you might want a job later with their company. 

    3. Being Truthful is always the best course. Making lies up means you will be caught out sometime in the future.

    4. OK

    5. OK

    6. Get to know the reputation of the people in the organization. It has been stated that between every NO person in the organization there is a YES person at a higher or lower level.

    7. This is right on- volunteering will get you additional job experience and makes a difference in getting another job later on.

    8. This is a major item- as you climb the ladder in a company you will reach a point where you have to decide which is more important your job or you family. It's a decision every one will be faced with in their mid 40's.

    9 This could be Bullying, and might be very dangerous to your health.

    10. Taking about the problems of your engineering manager with someone senior who "you trust"  who be very dangerous to your career. Even using the ER manager could cause problems.

    11.  Getting out to other companies allows one to network and possible obtain new job opportunities in their companies.

    12 . Don't get so close to senior staff that you burn (example when they get fired) or so far away that you freeze. 

    13. Very important to interface with the lower level people in the organization . They may have information you need for keeping your job.


    Peter Brooks MIET

    Palm Bay Florida USA
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