This discussion has been locked.
You can no longer post new replies to this discussion. If you have a question you can start a new discussion

No Climate Emergency

This doesn't seem to appear in the Daily Mail or the BBC, I wonder why:

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/sep/29/scientists-tell-un-global-climate-summit-no-emerge/

There is no climate emergency
A global network of 500 scientists and professionals has prepared this urgent message. Climate
science should be less political, while climate policies should be more scientific. Scientists should
openly address the uncertainties and exaggerations in their predictions of global warming, while
politicians should dispassionately count the real benefits as well as the imagined costs of adaptation
to global warming, and the real costs as well as the imagined benefits of mitigation.
Natural as well as anthropogenic factors cause warming
The geological archive reveals that Earth’s climate has varied as long as the planet has existed, with
natural cold and warm phases. The Little Ice Age ended as recently as 1850. Therefore, it is no
surprise that we now are experiencing a period of warming.
Warming is far slower than predicted
The world has warmed at less than half the originally-predicted rate, and at less than half the rate to
be expected on the basis of net anthropogenic forcing and radiative imbalance. It tells us that we are
far from understanding climate change.
Climate policy relies on inadequate models
Climate models have many shortcomings and are not remotely plausible as policy tools. Moreover,
they most likely exaggerate the effect of greenhouse gases such as CO2. In addition, they ignore the
fact that enriching the atmosphere with CO2 is beneficial.
CO2 is plant food, the basis of all life on Earth
CO2 is not a pollutant. It is essential to all life on Earth. Photosynthesis is a blessing. More CO2 is
beneficial for nature, greening the Earth: additional CO2 in the air has promoted growth in global
plant biomass. It is also good for agriculture, increasing the yields of crops worldwide.
Global warming has not increased natural disasters
There is no statistical evidence that global warming is intensifying hurricanes, floods, droughts and
suchlike natural disasters, or making them more frequent. However, CO2-mitigation measures are as
damaging as they are costly. For instance, wind turbines kill birds and bats, and palm-oil plantations
destroy the biodiversity of the rainforests.
Climate policy must respect scientific and economic realities
There is no climate emergency. Therefore, there is no cause for panic and alarm. We strongly
oppose the harmful and unrealistic net-zero CO2 policy proposed for 2050. If better approaches
emerge, we will have ample time to reflect and adapt. The aim of international policy should be to
provide reliable and affordable energy at all times, and throughout the world.

https://clintel.nl/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/ecd-letter-to-un.pdf


At last some people talking sense. After the relatively rapid rise of around 1°C between 1975 and 2000 in the Northern Hemisphere the temperatures have been relatively flat.

f95f77dc1ad4c0ab15046a656ee22cae-huge-hadcrut.jpg

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcrut4/figures/Figure11.png


We certainly need to reduce our consumption of finite resources and reduce our impact on the planet but focusing on CO2 is not the way to do it. Let's start with real pollutants that are directly harmful.


Best regards


Roger
Parents

  • Roger Bryant:

    The key points missing are actual resource requirements and costs.




    Alasdair Anderson‍ said : Not feasible. There is too much food (and other goods) transported by shipping to phase all shipping out in 30 years.


    Death of the species isn't on such programme management scales - cost is a socially decided thing, so once society has broken down, because many ports and airports are likely to have flooded, then we are all (those remaining) back to groats and tithes (figuratively).


    Part of the problem is the rhetoric, and some failure to join the science (scientific knowledge and understanding) to the engineering competences, where we can often forget (historically) the health and safety effects of e.g. mill lades (dead children floating in them) and their successor safety problems. We fail to appreciate the timescales and consequences for these 'big' issues.


    Just what makes something an "emergency"?

    Consider whether calling an ambulance (UK:999) for a small discovered spot on your arm because it might be cancerous, and may grow and then you will die from it. Is it an 'emergency' and if it's not, how long can you avoid it for, especially if all your friends have a similar spot. The centralisation of "Accident and Emergency" was misunderstood by the public. Often they should have been going to the 'Minor injuries units', or their GP for the appropriate level of 'timely' service. The 'Climate emergency' has similar problems. There are those who think that everything must be done 'now', and those that think everything can be delayed till the effects are really patent. Neither is a good balance.


    There is time. It's like saving for a pension. If you start early, with steady commitment, you will make the saving. If you don't keep up the steady savings you will have a poor outcome. It it's the planet that needs the pension, hence...

     

Reply

  • Roger Bryant:

    The key points missing are actual resource requirements and costs.




    Alasdair Anderson‍ said : Not feasible. There is too much food (and other goods) transported by shipping to phase all shipping out in 30 years.


    Death of the species isn't on such programme management scales - cost is a socially decided thing, so once society has broken down, because many ports and airports are likely to have flooded, then we are all (those remaining) back to groats and tithes (figuratively).


    Part of the problem is the rhetoric, and some failure to join the science (scientific knowledge and understanding) to the engineering competences, where we can often forget (historically) the health and safety effects of e.g. mill lades (dead children floating in them) and their successor safety problems. We fail to appreciate the timescales and consequences for these 'big' issues.


    Just what makes something an "emergency"?

    Consider whether calling an ambulance (UK:999) for a small discovered spot on your arm because it might be cancerous, and may grow and then you will die from it. Is it an 'emergency' and if it's not, how long can you avoid it for, especially if all your friends have a similar spot. The centralisation of "Accident and Emergency" was misunderstood by the public. Often they should have been going to the 'Minor injuries units', or their GP for the appropriate level of 'timely' service. The 'Climate emergency' has similar problems. There are those who think that everything must be done 'now', and those that think everything can be delayed till the effects are really patent. Neither is a good balance.


    There is time. It's like saving for a pension. If you start early, with steady commitment, you will make the saving. If you don't keep up the steady savings you will have a poor outcome. It it's the planet that needs the pension, hence...

     

Children
No Data