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Advice to candidates - keep it brief and to the point!

Hi,


The biggest challenge I find candidates face is actually getting around to writing their applications, and very often when I see their draft applications I can see why it took them so long - they have written FAR FAR too much! (Ok, some write too little, but that can be for another post.)


The guidance says:

The requirement is not to exceed a total of 12 pages for the whole application when printed.

Detail your main responsibilities and personal contributions rather than a bland job description. You should aim to provide roughly 3000 characters as it is unlikely that less will adequately demonstrate your relevant experience.



https://www.theiet.org/media/4251/cengieng-guidance.pdf


Trust me, "roughly 3000 characters" is plenty of room to describe what you are responsible for and what knowledge you use for your role.  A few hints for keeping it under control, these are common across many applications I've seen recently:

  • Don't tell a story. As soon as you find you are writing "this happened...and then this happened...and then this happened..." you need to reign it in. It can be useful to use projects as examples, but keep it to the form "For example, on this project I was responsible for specification / design / signoff of this technology, which required me to develop this solution, which required me to gain an understanding of yyy which I did through..." And a very brief description to show the level of commercial and/or technical risk involved only if it isn't obvious from the project name.

  • Don't describe other people's roles unless absolutely strictly necessary, and even then keep it very brief. You may need to describe those who work for you, or who you report to, to put your position in context, but this can be as brief as "I supervise the installation team of 6 staff at EngTech level and a team leader at IEng level" or "my reports are approved by the Technical Director for the division, however I hold full responsibility for the content and accuracy of those reports".

  • Don't describe what other people did before you arrived. Definitely don't say "the equipment needed replacing because of previous bad decisions", a) that's nothing to do with how good your engineering is and b) it's not showing respect to other engineers. I can't really think of a case offhand where it adds value to your application to say why the projects you are working on needed doing.

  • Similarly don't say "I was worried about...so I..." Mostly just say what you do. If you feel you really need to justify why you do what you do the best way is to show an outcome.

  • And definitely don't say (I've seen a few of these recently) "I disagreed with the decision so I recorded my disagreement even though I had to implement the decision". That's an internal confidential matter for your organisation which you shouldn't be making "public". (And in any case, you might have been the one who got the judgement wrong!) What you actually want to show is that where you have access to company confidential information (including this) you keep it confidential.  

  • Don't say "managing the project budget is important to keep costs under control", "installing equipment to the Wiring regulations is necessary to maintain electrical safety" or any other sentence that looks like that. The panels know that already! To show that you are competent say "I manage costs on my projects by...", "I manage safety on my projects by..." 

  • And also on saying the obvious, don't say (for example) "I compiled a spreadsheet using Excel" - of course you used Excel! Ok, other tools are available, the point is more about what value your spreadsheet added to the organisation, not how you did it. So "I identified an opportunity for improvement for the logging and tracking of failure data, and developed a process and spreadsheet solution which now ensures all failures can be effectively analysed on a quarterly basis" (and ideally "...resulting in x% reduction in failures") - that's far more interesting.

  • To sum up the above two points: assume that you are at the same level as the panels assessing your application. So you only need to explain engineering "life" if there is something specific about your organisation or industry that is strictly relevant to your competence. 

  • Don't waste words describing technology. You may need to do it briefly to put your work into context, particularly if you are explaining how your work is novel, but keep it really, really, really brief. It takes more engineering excellence to design a better pencil sharpener* than it does to fit a 13amp plug onto a supercomputer - it's not the complexity of the technology you are working on that will impress in your application, it's the complexity of the tasks you had to carry out and the amount of your own judgement you had to make.

  • A simple (and very common) one to save unnecessary words: if you find you've written "I looked at solutions...I identified xxx as the best solution...so I implemented xxx" actually only the middle bit is useful. If you've identified a best solution then we can assume you had looked at solutions and that you implemented the best one.

  • Also on this, and again this is where it is common to put in far, far too much detail, it doesn't matter why xxx was technically the best solution or what the alternatives were, what is interesting is how you knew it was the best one. Where did your knowledge and judgement come from. How did you check it was the right decision.

  • In general, don't treat the panels as university lecturers spending a long rainy day marking coursework. Treat them as very busy engineers who just want to be able to make a judgement, as quickly as possible, as to where you fit into the scale of engineering professionals. And one thing they'll judge you on is how well you can keep your application brief and to the point! 


As usual, I'd greatly appreciate any comments and other advice (especially if it contradicts the above ? ) from PRIs / PRAs.


Cheers,


Andy

* It really does. It is extremely rare that I come across an excellent pencil sharpener!
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  • Roy,  I completely agree with your points.


    The issue about white space and layout is common and my heart sinks when I see candidates writing a full page or more with no paragraph breaks and little punctuation.  This brings up an interesting point.  As PRAs we advise on both content and style of the application, but bearing in mind that the application itself is a measure of D competencies, I feel there is a quite difficult line to tread when advising on corrections.  Over the years, I have received several applications that were riddled with typos, grammatical errors and so on.  As a diverse profession, we must, of course, accept that we will often get applications from those whose first language is not English, but we have to also bear in mind the UK-SPEC requirements for communicating in English (D1). In a profession where clear and concise communication is essential for safety, this issue presents us with a dilemma.  If there are just a few minor errors, I tend to suggest corrections, but clearly, as PRAs, we can't wade in and correct the entire script as it is then not the candidate's own work.  In some of these cases, I have advised the candidates to go back and put the script into Word or their favourite word processing application but results have been mixed.  I'd be interested to hear how other PRAs deal with this problem.


    Back to the discussion and the key issue I find with application content is CEng applicants effectively drafting what equates to a "gold-plated" IEng application.  They fail to make sufficient distinction between the skills and competency requirements at CEng level and those for IEng and fail to draw out the essential differences between the two.  When I am reviewing a CEng application, in particular, I am looking for at least some of the following differentiators:

    IEng / CEng

    Tactical / Strategic

    Management / Leadership

    Responsibility / Accountability

    Works in existing technologies and methodologies / Works in new technologies and methodologies (e.g. change advocate, innovation).

    A relatively lower level of risk / Higher level of risk & more complex systems


    I realise that some of these can be somewhat subjective to apply and there are no strict benchmarks but when I view the evidence, I am looking for evidence that is telling me that the candidate is tending toward one end of the spectrum or the other, not a binary decision.  All too often, I am finding that CEng candidates with significant relevant experience are tending to focus on task-related project content, rather than more strategic, innovative or change-related qualities. 


    As pointed out to several candidates, a CEng applicant does not necessarily need academic qualifications, nor does one need to be an inventor or a contributor to patents, papers, etc., but the candidate must demonstrate qualities consistent with the professional registration category being applied for.  If a CEng application consists mainly of applying existing methodologies, standards, etc., to reasonably well-defined problems on existing products, then this rings the alarm bells for me.


    Unfortunately, once this is pointed out, it often results in a substantial re-write and a somewhat demoralised candidate - though in most cases, they have eventually come up with a really good application and I have many emails of thanks from successful candidates as testimony.


    I wonder if other PRAs are experiencing this and if so, does this indicate that we perhaps need a minor modification to the guidance notes, so that it is made clear to candidates (who read them - that's another thread!) that they need to focus on differentiating their skills and competencies?


    Best wishes for the festive season and a happy New Year to all.
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  • Roy,  I completely agree with your points.


    The issue about white space and layout is common and my heart sinks when I see candidates writing a full page or more with no paragraph breaks and little punctuation.  This brings up an interesting point.  As PRAs we advise on both content and style of the application, but bearing in mind that the application itself is a measure of D competencies, I feel there is a quite difficult line to tread when advising on corrections.  Over the years, I have received several applications that were riddled with typos, grammatical errors and so on.  As a diverse profession, we must, of course, accept that we will often get applications from those whose first language is not English, but we have to also bear in mind the UK-SPEC requirements for communicating in English (D1). In a profession where clear and concise communication is essential for safety, this issue presents us with a dilemma.  If there are just a few minor errors, I tend to suggest corrections, but clearly, as PRAs, we can't wade in and correct the entire script as it is then not the candidate's own work.  In some of these cases, I have advised the candidates to go back and put the script into Word or their favourite word processing application but results have been mixed.  I'd be interested to hear how other PRAs deal with this problem.


    Back to the discussion and the key issue I find with application content is CEng applicants effectively drafting what equates to a "gold-plated" IEng application.  They fail to make sufficient distinction between the skills and competency requirements at CEng level and those for IEng and fail to draw out the essential differences between the two.  When I am reviewing a CEng application, in particular, I am looking for at least some of the following differentiators:

    IEng / CEng

    Tactical / Strategic

    Management / Leadership

    Responsibility / Accountability

    Works in existing technologies and methodologies / Works in new technologies and methodologies (e.g. change advocate, innovation).

    A relatively lower level of risk / Higher level of risk & more complex systems


    I realise that some of these can be somewhat subjective to apply and there are no strict benchmarks but when I view the evidence, I am looking for evidence that is telling me that the candidate is tending toward one end of the spectrum or the other, not a binary decision.  All too often, I am finding that CEng candidates with significant relevant experience are tending to focus on task-related project content, rather than more strategic, innovative or change-related qualities. 


    As pointed out to several candidates, a CEng applicant does not necessarily need academic qualifications, nor does one need to be an inventor or a contributor to patents, papers, etc., but the candidate must demonstrate qualities consistent with the professional registration category being applied for.  If a CEng application consists mainly of applying existing methodologies, standards, etc., to reasonably well-defined problems on existing products, then this rings the alarm bells for me.


    Unfortunately, once this is pointed out, it often results in a substantial re-write and a somewhat demoralised candidate - though in most cases, they have eventually come up with a really good application and I have many emails of thanks from successful candidates as testimony.


    I wonder if other PRAs are experiencing this and if so, does this indicate that we perhaps need a minor modification to the guidance notes, so that it is made clear to candidates (who read them - that's another thread!) that they need to focus on differentiating their skills and competencies?


    Best wishes for the festive season and a happy New Year to all.
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