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Australian Wildfires

Moving some posts re the Australian wildfires to a separate topic Luciano Bacco‍ 

Luciano Bacco:


Climate Crisis. The reason Australia is red. Australian wildfires have cloaked the country in a demonic red glow. As the new decade begins underneath a blood-red sky, the need for solutions is even more pressing. 
https://www.inverse.com/article/62058-why-do-wildfires-turn-the-sky-red?link_uid=9&utm_campaign=inverse-daily-2020-01-03&utm_medium=inverse&utm_source=newsletter 


And:
https://interestingengineering.com/a-magpie-in-australia-mimics-emergency-responder-sirens-because-things-are-that-bad?_source=newsletter&_campaign=a0bglamBn02qr&_uid=YQdJzWvdOG&_h=c5182a5a087e2b004ca4aca7c1e307f54e8a1507&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=mailing&utm_campaign=Newsletter-04-01-2020

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/australian-bushfires-new-south-wales-koalas-sydney-a4322071.html#spark_wn=1




  • Simon Barker:




    Everything is "too difficult" for someone who doesn't want to do it.  I don't believe that carbon neutral by 2030 is realistically possible.  2050 should be. 2100 is too late, and is basically saying "don't bother doing anything until I'm long dead".




     




    This is Greenpeace's take on the current plans for China:
    https://unearthed.greenpeace.org/2019/03/28/china-new-coal-plants-2030-climate/

    None of the scenarios are going to get you to 'Carbon Neutral' by 2050 unless you can manage a lot of offsetting even though China is the current leader in installing wind, solar and nuclear capacity. We do need to start working now but without sensible planning the situation will get worse. Unless you only build renewables with renewable energy (bootstrap principle) emissions will increase during the building phase rather than decrease. This is an older article but the principle of 'Energy Cannibalism' still holds true:
    https://www.resilience.org/stories/2015-05-11/how-sustainable-is-pv-solar-power/


    The UK government including ex environment minister Gove obviously believe what they are preaching:
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-51303304
    Off to the battery factory with them.


    Best regards


    Roger


     

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    I think that, notwithstanding all the huge difficulties to implement a Clean Energy World within 2050, at least the 70% target will be reached, sufficient to save the whole world by an appalling environmental catastrophe!

    In this transition period new technologies a science discoveries will surely be of substantial support to reach such a target, The frightful warning is that many scientists are pointing out that we have no more than 11 years before us to rebalance our highly damaged Earth Habitat, failing that, this world-wide damage shall become irreversible so the final catastrophe shall be inevitable!
    https://www.un.org/press/en/2019/ga12131.doc.htm
    https://www.climatechangenews.com/2018/07/12/countries-yet-ratify-paris-agreement/

    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/energy/reference/renewable-energy/
    https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2019/6/18/18681591/renewable-energy-china-solar-pv-jobs
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    Roger Bryant:

    Who in the current media climate is going to stand up a say that? Ms Thunberg will send them off for forced labour in the battery factory (to quote OMS ? ).

     




     

    You're beyond re education in Battery Plant No 3, Roger - it's straight to the cobalt mine for you


    Regards


    OMS
  • An interesting piece from Roger Harrabin admitting that Carbon Neutral by 2050 is difficult. Not his normal position.

    'Climate change: Clean tech 'won't solve warming in time''

    https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-51389404


    Best regards


    Roger

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    At First:
    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/terrified-about-global-warming-finally-heres-some-good-news-2020-01-30

    In Uk renewables could be integrated by what is following:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-51233444

    And why not?
    https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/05/nuclear-fusion-could-solve-the-world-s-energy-problems-and-scientists-just-got-closer-to-making-it-work/


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    Australia: Most Australians now agree that the country is facing a climate emergency


    https://climateemergencydeclaration.org/the-australia-institute-poll-climate-emergency/

  • If you really believe that CO2 is bad (and I don't) then you should encourage Austraila to take measures to reduce fires. However the environmentalists in Auzi say the this damages the wildlife which then gets burned to death. You see you cannot win with these people who want to destroy our way of life. XR is a totalitarian organisation whose interest in climate is a way to power, beware. They do not claim otherwise, so should be prescripted, but the G is not capable of seeing the danger. Good Luck!

  • davezawadi:

    If you really believe that CO2 is bad (and I don't) then you should encourage Austraila to take measures to reduce fires. However the environmentalists in Auzi say the this damages the wildlife which then gets burned to death. You see you cannot win with these people who want to destroy our way of life. XR is a totalitarian organisation whose interest in climate is a way to power, beware. They do not claim otherwise, so should be prescripted, but the G is not capable of seeing the danger. Good Luck!




     

    The thing is, the people who want to change things are not interested in your way of life.  You can whinge and moan as much as you like, but as far as they are concerned, it's your way of life that is causing the problem.
  • That Simon is entirely the way that democracy is destroyed. One group think they know better, but they are not prepared to accept that others do not agree with them, and therefore the others must be FORCED to follow their wishes! Let us put this nonsense to a vote, having placed all the facts on the table. Look at the EU, similar mindset. Britain leaves and they demand that we still behave as if they are in charge of everything, otherwise they will not have a trade deal! Ok, BMW and Mercedes will loose an awful lot of workers because the UK is one of their biggest markets, and the resulting import tariff will kill their sales dead! The same with France, they expect the rest of Europe to pay so that they can have sky high farm subsidies. They are not going to, and there is already serious unrest (although not reported by the BBC) and Macron does not know what to do next, so he attacks Britain for his troubles. The EU is and always has been a totalitarian POLITICAL project, run by unelected elites who think they know better, but dare not go to the ballot box!
  • Interesting thread on the cause of bush fires in Australia.

    I live Australia and the fires this year have been devastating but it may come as a surprise, now that the fires are out, and some follow up is taking place with CSIRO (Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation) in the Australian Parliament, that all is not as the narrative portrayed at the time. In cross questioning from Senator Canavan it has come to light that CSIRO documents state that no studies explicitly attributing the Australian increase in fire weather to climate change have been performed at this time. 

    Its surprising the CSIRO as an impartial scientific body failed to make this known when the fires were happening, and much of the media and activists were wholly attributed the cause of the fires to climate change. In a more measured and rational post fire season environment, a Royal Commission has been established to investigate the 1999/2000 bush fires (and to report back in August 2000). Climate change is not part of the ToR, which will focus on preparedness, mitigation measures, emergency response and federal/state government responsibilities, all of which are factors the state and federal governments have the power to influence and manage.  


    The link to the video is for  Sky Australia's Chris Kenny's report   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5oedryZtm8


    Ernest