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Australian Wildfires

Moving some posts re the Australian wildfires to a separate topic Luciano Bacco‍ 

Luciano Bacco:


Climate Crisis. The reason Australia is red. Australian wildfires have cloaked the country in a demonic red glow. As the new decade begins underneath a blood-red sky, the need for solutions is even more pressing. 
https://www.inverse.com/article/62058-why-do-wildfires-turn-the-sky-red?link_uid=9&utm_campaign=inverse-daily-2020-01-03&utm_medium=inverse&utm_source=newsletter 


And:
https://interestingengineering.com/a-magpie-in-australia-mimics-emergency-responder-sirens-because-things-are-that-bad?_source=newsletter&_campaign=a0bglamBn02qr&_uid=YQdJzWvdOG&_h=c5182a5a087e2b004ca4aca7c1e307f54e8a1507&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=mailing&utm_campaign=Newsletter-04-01-2020

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/australian-bushfires-new-south-wales-koalas-sydney-a4322071.html#spark_wn=1



  • The fact that no studies to link the fire to anything at all were already there while they were burning is not that surprising.

    I agree it is misleading to hijack a single event and then to say ' aha - see climate change caused all this'  but that is mainly the tabloids and similar media. Responsible publications should be more measured in what they claim. However, it may be fair to say that Australia has always been dry, and seems to be getting drier, and it may well be that the climate is changing.

    If corona virus really slows activity, we may get a free experiment in emissions reduction as a side effect, much as the September 11th 2001 attacks altered flight patterns enough to be probably seen in ground temperature data paper here

  • Ernest:

    Interesting thread on the cause of bush fires in Australia.

    I live Australia and the fires this year have been devastating but it may come as a surprise, now that the fires are out, and some follow up is taking place with CSIRO (Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation) in the Australian Parliament, that all is not as the narrative portrayed at the time. In cross questioning from Senator Canavan it has come to light that CSIRO documents state that no studies explicitly attributing the Australian increase in fire weather to climate change have been performed at this time. 

    Its surprising the CSIRO as an impartial scientific body failed to make this known when the fires were happening, and much of the media and activists were wholly attributed the cause of the fires to climate change. In a more measured and rational post fire season environment, a Royal Commission has been established to investigate the 1999/2000 bush fires (and to report back in August 2000). Climate change is not part of the ToR, which will focus on preparedness, mitigation measures, emergency response and federal/state government responsibilities, all of which are factors the state and federal governments have the power to influence and manage.  


    The link to the video is for  Sky Australia's Chris Kenny's report   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5oedryZtm8


    Ernest




     

    Perhaps that's because they didn't study the bleeding obvious.  If you have a period of record high temperatures and exceptionally low rainfall, then you're going to get wildfires.  There's no way you can point at a specific fire and say that the weather caused it.  But you are going to get more fires than you would in a cooler or wetter year.