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Cold weather performance of air sourced heat pumps

Any heat pump experts on here? I’m looking at air sourced heat pump performance for a friend’s installation. They have NIBE F2040’s for the house, and Waterco Ultra 31’s for pool. Both use same R410A refrigerant, but that seem to be perhaps the only thing in common. NIBE (made in Sweden) twin rotary variable speed compressors are inverter controlled as standard (I guess vector or torque type drives), whilst the Waterco units are direct on line, capacitor start induction motors (I thought that technology went out long ago), with no soft start options.
 I’m interested in COP performance in the colder weather, the Ultra 31’s are specified as generally for use in ambient greater than 10 degrees C, although they do rate this particular model down to zero, BUT do not provide COP performance below 5 ambient, but enquiries suggest a COP of around 1 (perhaps even lower, ie, less power out than in!). The NIBE manufactures claim very much better, performance down to at least -25 ambient, with COP of around 2 even at this low temperature (is that even possible?).
Anyway, any thoughts on the subject, much appreciated.

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  • Dear mapj1, 

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  • Dear mapj1, 

    I won't get into an argument with you.  

    I wrote down and said again: Our world is made up of a lot of evolving engineering technology and we are the engineers of a time race that says with you don't know physics built from math base then unfortunately you seem out of the question. Everything you listed in the post is beautiful but there is no scientific proof of what you wrote down.
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