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Important Information! After the SPE(UK), the UK SEE (Society of Environmental Engineers) dissolved!

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https://www.engc.org.uk/news/press-releases/pr2019/society-of-environmental-engineers-to-close-registration-options-for-members/



https://www.ciwem.org/news/engineering-council-society-of-environmental-engineers-(see)-update



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_Environmental_Engineers



https://professionalengineeringukandothertopics.wordpress.com/2019/09/26/the-legitimate-uk-society-of-professional-engineers-speng-uk-is-no-more-in-existence-a-reminder-14-august-2019-latest-updating-22-september-2019-dont-forget/


It is a my personal opinion that in the years to come (within the 2020-2030 decade) most of the smaller UK engineering Inst, and Soc. shall be destined to disappear and only the most prestigious will remain but in turn they shall be forced to amalgamate in order to validly face the fierce challenges before us!

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    It is my personal opinion that in the years to come (within the 2020-2030 decade) most of the smaller UK engineering Inst, and Soc. shall be destined to disappear and only the most prestigious will remain but in turn they shall be forced to amalgamate in order to validly face the fierce challenges before us!


    Luciano,


    This seems a likely direction of travel, simply because of economies of scale and changes in technology as new specialisms emerge and older ones decline. The original basis for almost all Professional Institutions or Learned Societies in the UK, was a wish to create a club of like-minded or similar people to share and promote common interests.  This has been a particularly strong part of “British” culture for centuries and is also common elsewhere in democratic or “capitalist countries”.  They could have been organised by governments, or as business propositions, either for profit, or not for profit. A number of more recently formed or growing groups have sought recognition by Engineering Council and some of them used SEE as an existing license holder to offer professional registration. It seems that this work wasn’t sufficient to sustain SEE financially and it has had to close. 

          

    I should also note that the roles of Trades Unions or Trade Associations was historically similar and overlapping. So when I was a member of one the institutions that you listed, it was in effect a “division” of a Trades Union, sharing office overheads etc. The current constitution of Engineering Council states requirements for affiliation thus;   it is not a trade association and is not, in the opinion of the Board, engaged (as a principal part of its activities) in activities carried on by trade unions or employers organisations;


    A quick google found this statement; There are more than 185,000 registered charities in England and Wales. The number is rising by 5,000 a year (The Guardian).


    An example of a similar type of organisation that I passed the examinations of and was a member of (IIRSM- at the request of my employer) is this. “Founded” by one person https://www.britsafe.org/about-us/press-releases/2014/founder-james-tye-is-remembered-by-the-bbc-s-one-show/


    For a light-hearted competition, can anyone beat me?  I first joined a Professional Engineering Institution in 1982 and have only ever been a member of one at any time (although I have been in other types of institution). The list is IEETE, IEEIE, ASEE, IIExE, IIE, IET. Only one of these was an active change on my part, the rest were changes by the institution. The first one was only short, as the name change was planned as I joined.                     


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    It is my personal opinion that in the years to come (within the 2020-2030 decade) most of the smaller UK engineering Inst, and Soc. shall be destined to disappear and only the most prestigious will remain but in turn they shall be forced to amalgamate in order to validly face the fierce challenges before us!


    Luciano,


    This seems a likely direction of travel, simply because of economies of scale and changes in technology as new specialisms emerge and older ones decline. The original basis for almost all Professional Institutions or Learned Societies in the UK, was a wish to create a club of like-minded or similar people to share and promote common interests.  This has been a particularly strong part of “British” culture for centuries and is also common elsewhere in democratic or “capitalist countries”.  They could have been organised by governments, or as business propositions, either for profit, or not for profit. A number of more recently formed or growing groups have sought recognition by Engineering Council and some of them used SEE as an existing license holder to offer professional registration. It seems that this work wasn’t sufficient to sustain SEE financially and it has had to close. 

          

    I should also note that the roles of Trades Unions or Trade Associations was historically similar and overlapping. So when I was a member of one the institutions that you listed, it was in effect a “division” of a Trades Union, sharing office overheads etc. The current constitution of Engineering Council states requirements for affiliation thus;   it is not a trade association and is not, in the opinion of the Board, engaged (as a principal part of its activities) in activities carried on by trade unions or employers organisations;


    A quick google found this statement; There are more than 185,000 registered charities in England and Wales. The number is rising by 5,000 a year (The Guardian).


    An example of a similar type of organisation that I passed the examinations of and was a member of (IIRSM- at the request of my employer) is this. “Founded” by one person https://www.britsafe.org/about-us/press-releases/2014/founder-james-tye-is-remembered-by-the-bbc-s-one-show/


    For a light-hearted competition, can anyone beat me?  I first joined a Professional Engineering Institution in 1982 and have only ever been a member of one at any time (although I have been in other types of institution). The list is IEETE, IEEIE, ASEE, IIExE, IIE, IET. Only one of these was an active change on my part, the rest were changes by the institution. The first one was only short, as the name change was planned as I joined.                     


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