How does IET define Innovation to meet CEng Standards

Hi Guys - just to clear up one or two issues (having read everybody's responces) - it isn't a single person doing the Pre PRI assessment it is two qualified Assessors and a Moderator/Registrar that undertake these assessments. The IET staff do their upmost to ensure that the Panel is drawn from Engineers that are familiar with your discipline. Often where things are unclear in an application the Panel can ask for: - further information on a set category or a few or a full competence statement across the board. They can pose a Targeted Question which they will compose and usually set a word limit - 500/1000 words.


In my experience on PRI Panels, discussions will have taken place using the RPS system and where an application is lacking there is usually a lot more discussion as to how they should proceed. Where an application is declined the staff will usually give details of what was lacking as advised by the Panel. To be honest more time is spent on an application that is declined.


As a PRA I always offer these basic tips - every paragraph starts with "I" and doing it is better than being responsible for it (especially in A & B) (we've all worked for those who are responsible for it!) Check against the UK Spec schedules at the back of the book and ensure that all 17 competence are covered in the application. Ensure CPD and Ethics are covered and include a Development Action Plan and an organisation diagram that is clear and doesn't show the entire organistaion - one or two levels above and all those that report directly and indirectly (don't forget contractors). 


Once you get through this lot then your presentation should be a subject that you know inside out and back to front and be prepared to get all sorts of questions from the PRI panel (usually two engineers again within your field of expertise). I always suggest that you try it out on a colleague who can challenge you on it - that may bring about further editing. When I have interviewed there have been occasions where the entire interview revolves around the presentation - which can be good - if we can get the answers we need to complete the PRI report which is done immediately following the interview.


Then another Panel, again 3 volunteers same make up as before but different personnel, go through the application again and the interview report to enable them to ratify the Interview Panel's recommendation. So you see that if you include your PRA some nine volunteers are involved in your application so very little is left to chance.


If you have a security problem in describing any element I suggest you seek advice from your superiors and I will say that all assessors will not discuss anything that is revealed that may have a security element if advised, including commercial and military details. Anyway best of luck with your reapplication.

Hi Guys - just to clear up one or two issues (having read everybody's responces) - it isn't a single person doing the Pre PRI assessment it is two qualified Assessors and a Moderator/Registrar that undertake these assessments. The IET staff do their upmost to ensure that the Panel is drawn from Engineers that are familiar with your discipline. Often where things are unclear in an application the Panel can ask for: - further information on a set category or a few or a full competence statement across the board. They can pose a Targeted Question which they will compose and usually set a word limit - 500/1000 words.


In my experience on PRI Panels, discussions will have taken place using the RPS system and where an application is lacking there is usually a lot more discussion as to how they should proceed. Where an application is declined the staff will usually give details of what was lacking as advised by the Panel. To be honest more time is spent on an application that is declined.


As a PRA I always offer these basic tips - every paragraph starts with "I" and doing it is better than being responsible for it (especially in A & B) (we've all worked for those who are responsible for it!) Check against the UK Spec schedules at the back of the book and ensure that all 17 competence are covered in the application. Ensure CPD and Ethics are covered and include a Development Action Plan and an organisation diagram that is clear and doesn't show the entire organistaion - one or two levels above and all those that report directly and indirectly (don't forget contractors). 


Once you get through this lot then your presentation should be a subject that you know inside out and back to front and be prepared to get all sorts of questions from the PRI panel (usually two engineers again within your field of expertise). I always suggest that you try it out on a colleague who can challenge you on it - that may bring about further editing. When I have interviewed there have been occasions where the entire interview revolves around the presentation - which can be good - if we can get the answers we need to complete the PRI report which is done immediately following the interview.


Then another Panel, again 3 volunteers same make up as before but different personnel, go through the application again and the interview report to enable them to ratify the Interview Panel's recommendation. So you see that if you include your PRA some nine volunteers are involved in your application so very little is left to chance.


If you have a security problem in describing any element I suggest you seek advice from your superiors and I will say that all assessors will not discuss anything that is revealed that may have a security element if advised, including commercial and military details. Anyway best of luck with your reapplication.