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Will HS2 Fail or Succeed?

Dave Perton
I believe it will do both, it just depends on the measure you use. In an project there are three measures of success or failure, cost, time-scale and outcome and I believe it will fail on two but succeed on the most important and have set out my argument in a blog post here https://communities.theiet.org/groups/blogpost/view/27/231/6920


The project is so complex to think costs will not overrun or timing slip is to be naive, as it is impossible to predict them when the timescales are so long and the complexity so great, but the outcome will be a success
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    But we already have direct mobility routes between the cities we want to connect with HS2 - they are called motorways.


    If we are only doing city to city stops and connections, why not put high speed raised rail or maglev lines along the central reservation over the motorways instead of carving up the countryside and forcing people to move for more ground-based railway lines - use and leverage the £bns of investment in our extant mobility infrastructure we already have? These 'sky rail' routes could have intermediate stops at strategic points if necessary too. Why not use individual carriages or strings of carriages sized for traffic at different times of day or 'demand driven' train sizes, instead of running big trains no matter the number of passengers. Add and remove carriages along the way the match demand - like a cable car system at ski resorts. Similar concept to the hyperloop picture in the attached - https://www.alphr.com/the-future/1008177/hyperloop-overhyped-underlooped 


    Are we not supposedly an innovating technology and world leading nation that invented passenger and cargo railways, iron bridges, metal passenger ships, aircraft and jet engine and jet airliners, hovercraft, cats eyes, maglev trains (not forgetting telephony, TV, radar, et al). We're now a nation of sustainable mobility technology followers and late-comers, no longer innovators, first movers and leaders in sustainable mobility, very sad.
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    But we already have direct mobility routes between the cities we want to connect with HS2 - they are called motorways.


    If we are only doing city to city stops and connections, why not put high speed raised rail or maglev lines along the central reservation over the motorways instead of carving up the countryside and forcing people to move for more ground-based railway lines - use and leverage the £bns of investment in our extant mobility infrastructure we already have? These 'sky rail' routes could have intermediate stops at strategic points if necessary too. Why not use individual carriages or strings of carriages sized for traffic at different times of day or 'demand driven' train sizes, instead of running big trains no matter the number of passengers. Add and remove carriages along the way the match demand - like a cable car system at ski resorts. Similar concept to the hyperloop picture in the attached - https://www.alphr.com/the-future/1008177/hyperloop-overhyped-underlooped 


    Are we not supposedly an innovating technology and world leading nation that invented passenger and cargo railways, iron bridges, metal passenger ships, aircraft and jet engine and jet airliners, hovercraft, cats eyes, maglev trains (not forgetting telephony, TV, radar, et al). We're now a nation of sustainable mobility technology followers and late-comers, no longer innovators, first movers and leaders in sustainable mobility, very sad.
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