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Ethics: Are we misusing the terms "master-slave". Do we even have a community / forum in which we can discuss this?

The recent world wide considerations of the diversity challenges in our society has highlighted that we in Engineering can be perpetuating some of the derogatory terms implicit within our use of "Master-Slave" for purely inanimate technical control scenarios. [1 - N]


We have policies on slavery that every volunteer, staff member and Trustee must read and abide to, but it appears we haven't noticed, to any significant extent, our own continued use of "slave" in our writings.


Do we even have a community or forum in which we can discuss this ethical, and publishing issue?


Philip Oakley

[1] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53273923

[2] http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3243656.stm

[3] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-53050955

[4 ] http://www.jstor.com/stable/40061475   "Broken Metaphor: The Master-Slave Analogy in Technical Literature"

[5] https://www.theiet.org/involved/volunteering-for-the-iet/volunteer-hub/our-policies/anti-slavery-policy/


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  • I am an Old (very), White and Male. I am offended when people group me under the collective acronym OWM (“Old White Men” – a group of Baby Boomers who choose to act like they are the only ones who matter and are known for their bias on racial, financial or government matters) as it does not describe my views, actions, beliefs nor my physical or mental capabilities and I had no control over my ethnicity, colour , religion or nationality at birth.

    Being old and white I have no idea what it is like to grow up in a society prejudiced against me, apart from both my parents  being Irish and me growing up in an age where "No coloureds, no dogs and no Irish" was a common sign on boarding houses.

    During my working life I have worked with people of all races, colours, sexes and sexuality in many countries without, I hope, ever offending any of them. Although I did have one female manager who appeared to be offended by my existence, although I had a couple of colleagues in the same boat.  

    I think the UK is now going mad and banning words used for a perfectly good reason that in my view can only cause offence to those who want to be offended is a step to far and the action of a group who want to take us to the world of truthspeak as per 1984 and free speech is not allowed.

    On a different forum there recently was a post from a respected member who was accused of racism because he asked an assistant in a DIY shed "where the spade connectors are". He ended up showing a manager the items called spade connectors on the companies web site and on the Screwfix web site. He also asked the manager if they sold spades but was told that was different.

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  • I am an Old (very), White and Male. I am offended when people group me under the collective acronym OWM (“Old White Men” – a group of Baby Boomers who choose to act like they are the only ones who matter and are known for their bias on racial, financial or government matters) as it does not describe my views, actions, beliefs nor my physical or mental capabilities and I had no control over my ethnicity, colour , religion or nationality at birth.

    Being old and white I have no idea what it is like to grow up in a society prejudiced against me, apart from both my parents  being Irish and me growing up in an age where "No coloureds, no dogs and no Irish" was a common sign on boarding houses.

    During my working life I have worked with people of all races, colours, sexes and sexuality in many countries without, I hope, ever offending any of them. Although I did have one female manager who appeared to be offended by my existence, although I had a couple of colleagues in the same boat.  

    I think the UK is now going mad and banning words used for a perfectly good reason that in my view can only cause offence to those who want to be offended is a step to far and the action of a group who want to take us to the world of truthspeak as per 1984 and free speech is not allowed.

    On a different forum there recently was a post from a respected member who was accused of racism because he asked an assistant in a DIY shed "where the spade connectors are". He ended up showing a manager the items called spade connectors on the companies web site and on the Screwfix web site. He also asked the manager if they sold spades but was told that was different.

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  • 100% back you on this KFH. As a fellow Irishman and therefore from a 'efnk mynoritee' my experiences echo your own, yet I didn't go running around shouting woe is me, I just got on with the job.

    The trouble with this do-gooders is that their views only apply to everyone else and not themselves. If it doesn't fit their narrative then they change the rules. No point in arguing with idiots, they'll only bring you down to their level.