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530kW motor checks? !!

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Hello to all, and I do hope that people can advise me on this?


Firstly: what checks can I best do for a possible purchase of a single ABB - AMB 630 LC16 ABA C 530kW pump unit, which is unable to be properly tested (powered up) as the plant it was operating in has been decommissioned, and is currently being scrapped.


The unit appears to be mostly self contained, with a separate 'powercap' capacitor cabinet.

There are 8 in total, in various conditions and all look like this:
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Secondly: No switching gear is 'included', however I could always ask the company (who's pulling the site apart) if it's possible to obtain the original starter systems maybe???

But would this be a good idea, considering again it's in an unknown condition.


From the 8 available, I've selected 2 that appear to be the most suitable for hopefully reusing again (not bashed about, leaking oil etc) and thus generally look ok, so possibly from that can choose the final one.... but it would be great to know how best to maybe pick the best from any testing that could be done where they stand now, without any power.


Obviously with big industrial machine as this, it's not your average consumer second-hand electrical goods....

....that one just plugs in, and then hopes it works when power is applied!



(Thanks in advance to any replies)
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  • I agree it is a crying shame how some things are scrapped - we are in a very wasteful society, and a lot of otherwise good stuff is put beyond use by the demolitions team's lack of understanding.


    Re shelter and ventilation:- In hotter countries where things are sometimes painted to match the sand, we may have a sort of 'dutch barn' to keep the sun off things like gensets and so forth, but allow free airflow at the sides.  (it also makes it harder to identify from the air, but I do not think that is a concern in your case) You could have something like that -not much more than 2 rows of I or U girder uprights  and some wriggle-tin to make a sloping hat, maybe some angle iron braces if it the unsupported span gets too big. I realise you are not in the desert, but the same design works just as well for keeping drizzle out of the oilways while you take inspection covers off.


    You can then drop curtain walls of canvas or tarp material to keep yourself and the machine out of the worst of the weather when you need to inspect- a few holes for bolts in the frame and some bungee cord is marvellous stuff.

    If you are casting a floor slab then its not that much work to make the pads for bolting for this later as an option.

     

    Meanwhile it occurs that you could probably hire a large (megawatt ) LV 3 phase genset and a step up tranny if you really really wanted a pre-test. You'd still need the starter - it won't be direct on-line !! There is presumably a 25amp 11kV vacuum or gas filled contactor or two lurking  somewhere.. If it really is 2002, then I'd expect full data on how it is supposed to work to be 'out there'.

    If water has got in the caps will be safely discharged, but will need obviously need drying before any attempt to use it.

    M.

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  • I agree it is a crying shame how some things are scrapped - we are in a very wasteful society, and a lot of otherwise good stuff is put beyond use by the demolitions team's lack of understanding.


    Re shelter and ventilation:- In hotter countries where things are sometimes painted to match the sand, we may have a sort of 'dutch barn' to keep the sun off things like gensets and so forth, but allow free airflow at the sides.  (it also makes it harder to identify from the air, but I do not think that is a concern in your case) You could have something like that -not much more than 2 rows of I or U girder uprights  and some wriggle-tin to make a sloping hat, maybe some angle iron braces if it the unsupported span gets too big. I realise you are not in the desert, but the same design works just as well for keeping drizzle out of the oilways while you take inspection covers off.


    You can then drop curtain walls of canvas or tarp material to keep yourself and the machine out of the worst of the weather when you need to inspect- a few holes for bolts in the frame and some bungee cord is marvellous stuff.

    If you are casting a floor slab then its not that much work to make the pads for bolting for this later as an option.

     

    Meanwhile it occurs that you could probably hire a large (megawatt ) LV 3 phase genset and a step up tranny if you really really wanted a pre-test. You'd still need the starter - it won't be direct on-line !! There is presumably a 25amp 11kV vacuum or gas filled contactor or two lurking  somewhere.. If it really is 2002, then I'd expect full data on how it is supposed to work to be 'out there'.

    If water has got in the caps will be safely discharged, but will need obviously need drying before any attempt to use it.

    M.

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