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Electricity Cost Versus Gas Camping Canister Cost.

BBBBBbbbbrrrrr, it is cold.


Can anyone please compare the heating costs of domestic electricity to a 227 gram camping gas canister of Butane as  used in a portable heater please? Perhaps in kW hours for both. The gas canisters can cost up to £1.50 but are available at about G.B.P. 1.00 in bulk. Thanks,


Z.
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  • In the longer term, electricity from the mains is going to be a bit cheaper in price compared to the butane cylinder, but if you had it, then methane from the gas mains in the street would be cheaper still.

    In metric units all the hydrocarbons end up being 48-50  Megajoules per kilo. Although propane and methane are smaller molecules than butane, and you get less energy per molecule from burning, this is almost perfectly compensated by the fact you get more molecules per kilo of the smaller molecules.


    A megajoule is not that much - a kilowatt for a thousand seconds, so the l kilo of the gas will be 50 000 000joules / 3600 seconds per hour, or as per Crossy above, 13800 watt hours, or 13.8kWhrs per kilo.

    your can will be


    so 14 units of electric per kilo, but that is 4 cans  at £1 each - call it £4/14  =  28 p per  unit. Somewhere above day rate.


    It is cheaper to buy bigger bottles of propane, but you need a different type of burner.. (well maybe not, I have used butane boiling  rings on propane in the past, just adjusting the air flow for a non yellow tipped flame.)


    Do take care with camping stoves indoors - they are built to a value engineered standard that assumes use in a  well ventilated outdoors, and small leaks are not uncommon.


    I've seen the odd one go up with Scouts (who are very rough with them however), and it can be scary, I'd hate anything like that to be indoors.


    For keeping warm, really, 100m thick celotex slabs are your friend.


    Mike.

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  • In the longer term, electricity from the mains is going to be a bit cheaper in price compared to the butane cylinder, but if you had it, then methane from the gas mains in the street would be cheaper still.

    In metric units all the hydrocarbons end up being 48-50  Megajoules per kilo. Although propane and methane are smaller molecules than butane, and you get less energy per molecule from burning, this is almost perfectly compensated by the fact you get more molecules per kilo of the smaller molecules.


    A megajoule is not that much - a kilowatt for a thousand seconds, so the l kilo of the gas will be 50 000 000joules / 3600 seconds per hour, or as per Crossy above, 13800 watt hours, or 13.8kWhrs per kilo.

    your can will be


    so 14 units of electric per kilo, but that is 4 cans  at £1 each - call it £4/14  =  28 p per  unit. Somewhere above day rate.


    It is cheaper to buy bigger bottles of propane, but you need a different type of burner.. (well maybe not, I have used butane boiling  rings on propane in the past, just adjusting the air flow for a non yellow tipped flame.)


    Do take care with camping stoves indoors - they are built to a value engineered standard that assumes use in a  well ventilated outdoors, and small leaks are not uncommon.


    I've seen the odd one go up with Scouts (who are very rough with them however), and it can be scary, I'd hate anything like that to be indoors.


    For keeping warm, really, 100m thick celotex slabs are your friend.


    Mike.

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