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Electric Trucks and Buses

This firm seems to be putting a lot of effort into real sized electric trucks. There are a few running around here but I understand the Swiss taxation of HGVs makes this possible (as with the hydrogen fuel cell trucks).

Electric Trucks | Utility Vehicles | E-Trucks | Futuricum


Berlin had a few range issues with its battery buses during the cold spell and had to make the last few runs will diesels. It appears the busses did not deliver there specified low temperature range. This article is a bit negative but in the end says it was a limited problem.

https://notrickszone.com/2021/02/17/green-folly-berlins-city-e-buses-leave-passengers-out-in-the-cold-diesel-buses-to-the-rescue/


Personally I will be happy if the early morning buses and trucks are electric but I'm not sure if it is really economical.
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  • I saw quite a number of battery buses when I was last in Changzhou (~6years ago) but not to that level. They will certainly help to reduce urban air pollution and noise but won’t do anything about total emissions. Although China is currently building the largest amount of wind, solar and nuclear generation capacity in the world it is also building the largest amount of coal generation capacity.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL4N2K81R0

    Buses, urban delivery and refuse collection are ideal uses for EVs. The routes and loadings can be optimised to match battery capacity so the vehicles are not carrying excessive battery weight ‘just in case’. As Shenzhen is also home to BVD who make the electric buses and taxis this does appear to be something of a research project as well.  According the official  press release the city paid nearly 500 million USD in subsidies. Their claimed energy savings seem a little optimistic.

    https://insideevs.com/news/335551/shenzhen-now-home-to-16000-electric-buses/

    It suggest that 1700 charging stations have been installed for the buses, mostly 150kW units so around 250MW  if fully utilised ¼ of a typical power station.

    https://insideevs.com/news/487869/shenzhen-city-16000-electric-buse-22000-taxis/

    I am quite happy with the use of EVs to reduce urban pollution and noise, I am not so sure about energy saving/CO2 reduction and I am very sceptical about actual cost savings.


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  • I saw quite a number of battery buses when I was last in Changzhou (~6years ago) but not to that level. They will certainly help to reduce urban air pollution and noise but won’t do anything about total emissions. Although China is currently building the largest amount of wind, solar and nuclear generation capacity in the world it is also building the largest amount of coal generation capacity.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL4N2K81R0

    Buses, urban delivery and refuse collection are ideal uses for EVs. The routes and loadings can be optimised to match battery capacity so the vehicles are not carrying excessive battery weight ‘just in case’. As Shenzhen is also home to BVD who make the electric buses and taxis this does appear to be something of a research project as well.  According the official  press release the city paid nearly 500 million USD in subsidies. Their claimed energy savings seem a little optimistic.

    https://insideevs.com/news/335551/shenzhen-now-home-to-16000-electric-buses/

    It suggest that 1700 charging stations have been installed for the buses, mostly 150kW units so around 250MW  if fully utilised ¼ of a typical power station.

    https://insideevs.com/news/487869/shenzhen-city-16000-electric-buse-22000-taxis/

    I am quite happy with the use of EVs to reduce urban pollution and noise, I am not so sure about energy saving/CO2 reduction and I am very sceptical about actual cost savings.


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