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Design & test RF links

I work in the Water Industry were we use radio links for telemetry/SCADA purposes. In order to find a viable link, a desktop study is completed using “path profile” applications which is backed up by an actual on site radio test. Any help in the form of webinars, paperwork or courses would be most welcome.

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  • Generally the fade margin to allow depends on how serious a link failure would be, both in the sense of what stops working, and how cleanly the system recovers when it comes back. There is also the thorny issue of interference to and from adjacent channel users in range and also co-channel users who are not supposed to be in range but may well be. 20dB may be a sensible first cut, but understand that   when you write a level plan, you do so mainly so you know what you are changing.?

    Also systems that can degrade gracefully to lower data-rates and or give a report link margin, so you can see if problems are imminent before they occur  need less mollycoddling than those that give no warning and fail dead.

    At 460MHz you may also need to consider that at certain times of year you will get tropospheric ducting - as a direct example I am aware of a project about 20 years ago to solve interference to southern water UHF telemetry from France that caused havoc, but only for a few days a year. Cunning use of directional antennas and an INCAN system helped in that case. 

    Channel sounding is a very sensible idea, but like an interference survey it needs to be over a long enough period to capture the SNR  over a range of likely conditions - leaves on trees and thunderstorms are the sort of thing you need to wait for, they do not happen to order.

    I'm not sure if CISPR have any ‘how to do channel sounding' papers but I can have a look.

     

     

     

     

     

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  • Generally the fade margin to allow depends on how serious a link failure would be, both in the sense of what stops working, and how cleanly the system recovers when it comes back. There is also the thorny issue of interference to and from adjacent channel users in range and also co-channel users who are not supposed to be in range but may well be. 20dB may be a sensible first cut, but understand that   when you write a level plan, you do so mainly so you know what you are changing.?

    Also systems that can degrade gracefully to lower data-rates and or give a report link margin, so you can see if problems are imminent before they occur  need less mollycoddling than those that give no warning and fail dead.

    At 460MHz you may also need to consider that at certain times of year you will get tropospheric ducting - as a direct example I am aware of a project about 20 years ago to solve interference to southern water UHF telemetry from France that caused havoc, but only for a few days a year. Cunning use of directional antennas and an INCAN system helped in that case. 

    Channel sounding is a very sensible idea, but like an interference survey it needs to be over a long enough period to capture the SNR  over a range of likely conditions - leaves on trees and thunderstorms are the sort of thing you need to wait for, they do not happen to order.

    I'm not sure if CISPR have any ‘how to do channel sounding' papers but I can have a look.

     

     

     

     

     

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