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Why Isn't Pay Fair?

Former Community Member
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''A report out last week (from page 11) reveals that men get paid more than women – and receive bigger bonuses.



A new survey has revealed that men are paid more than women and earn more in bonuses than their female colleagues. Over a lifetime, men doing the same job may get up to £140,000 more in bonus packages.''

The Guardian



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Women in Engineering Earn 25% Less Than Men



So, why isn't pay fair?  ''There are whispers about other reasons, too. It's mainly senior managers who decide on pay rises, and most of them are men, so is there an unconscious or even conscious bias at play here? More worrying are the tweets and comments that blame ingrained attitudes about women's commitment to work – the idea that there is no point in promoting a woman who is likely leave to have a child and never come back''

The Guardian
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    I am also sure that the problem isn't helped because the raw data about pay is not transparently available!  We are told that the details of pay-awards are 'confidential' and so shouldn't be discussed with colleagues.  As a result how do you assess if your pay is 'fair'?

    Should I be trying to benchmark my salary against all engineers with a similar level of experience; only those in my sector or those doing a similar role in my organization?  How do I access this data to be able to do such a bench marking exercise?

    Or are the statistics being skewed by other factors?  Are a greater proportion of women doing less hours (by choice)?  Are the small proportions of women vs men in the sector rendering the comparison invalid?

    Or is it purely down to the fact that in general women are less pushy about asking for pay-rises?



    One other factor is that often pay-rises are given as percentage increases.  So if a women takes a number of maternity leave breaks such that she misses out (or gets the smallest amount) on some early percentage increases, then she will always be trying to play catch-up?