Thanks for sharing Joseph. I was wondering why INCOSE seemed to have no evangelists to promote systems engineering in the wider world. Perhaps the members are too insular?


For me, the outreach never seems to be quite there; may be that's unfair comment as I am out in Canada and the knowledge of this subject matter doesn't seem to have been adopted by the large projects.  But you raise some good points as to why they may be struggling.


If there truly is an incapability of INCOSE to move with the times, surely as members of the IET we have a better capability of promoting this in all our projects.


Current issues that I perceive:


1) Systems Engineering- Little to no knowledge of this in Civil world, therefore application in large projects can be minimal. (see 8) )

2) Predominantly seen as something which spans the hardware/software domains only.

3) Misunderstanding of how this successfully used in an Multi-discipline large capital project.

4) Implemented too late.

5) Stats on its use and project success are not easy to find.

6) Lack of understanding of project life cycle.

7) Unwillingness to adopt this technique - Needs constant education.

8) Civil project design methodology different to the processes of other disciplines.

9) Project managers unaware of benefits and the de-risking of projects using this technique.

10) Clients need to be better informed of this.


Rather than discuss the woes of INCOSE, perhaps its better to raise the profile of Systems Engineering within the IET:  To be frank , I thought many of the IET.TV seminars reference this discipline but perhaps its not brought together in a more cohesive manner. So kudos to Alan for stoking the fire ;-)   

 

Thanks for sharing Joseph. I was wondering why INCOSE seemed to have no evangelists to promote systems engineering in the wider world. Perhaps the members are too insular?


For me, the outreach never seems to be quite there; may be that's unfair comment as I am out in Canada and the knowledge of this subject matter doesn't seem to have been adopted by the large projects.  But you raise some good points as to why they may be struggling.


If there truly is an incapability of INCOSE to move with the times, surely as members of the IET we have a better capability of promoting this in all our projects.


Current issues that I perceive:


1) Systems Engineering- Little to no knowledge of this in Civil world, therefore application in large projects can be minimal. (see 8) )

2) Predominantly seen as something which spans the hardware/software domains only.

3) Misunderstanding of how this successfully used in an Multi-discipline large capital project.

4) Implemented too late.

5) Stats on its use and project success are not easy to find.

6) Lack of understanding of project life cycle.

7) Unwillingness to adopt this technique - Needs constant education.

8) Civil project design methodology different to the processes of other disciplines.

9) Project managers unaware of benefits and the de-risking of projects using this technique.

10) Clients need to be better informed of this.


Rather than discuss the woes of INCOSE, perhaps its better to raise the profile of Systems Engineering within the IET:  To be frank , I thought many of the IET.TV seminars reference this discipline but perhaps its not brought together in a more cohesive manner. So kudos to Alan for stoking the fire ;-)