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What do I expect from IET – Community - France & Paris.

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Firstly who are the IET Fr MIET members?

I joined this PEI in 1980 from Grenoble. I was on substantive leave from MoD. I decided to stay for a longer period and got married here. At that time we were the first to come over with the EU agreements of that period.

There were already ex-patriot UK people with huge benefits living here, there were the UK EU adventurers with no objectives but work was abundant, there were the first student exchanges, and some had married into French families. I did not meet any UK people who simply came here to live and work at that time.

 

Most of us found the difference between the UK and France as difficult as between the UK and China. They just did not live, eat or drink like us.

 

I was advised by the first UK settlers to just join in and enjoy myself, which I did.

I first met French culture when I organised the “entente cordiale” between the Concorde R&D groups of UK RAE and French ONERA. It was unbelievable, when the opportunity to have a job and career change came, I took up nuclear engineering in France.

 

I returned to the UK which had drastically changed – Thatcher, strikes, riots. My name  was plagiarised in my work. I had to leave the UK after my employers failed to protect me. I returned to France.

The first time every one talked of the quality of life in France, the second time it was the Iraqi wars and crisis.

 

So what do you need to work and survive in France now and how can the IET French Community help.

France is huge; it is not realistic to travel from SE or SW France for a meeting in Paris.

Maybe we need a newcomers guide such as most French towns give to new arrivals.

France is still totally different from the UK.

We have different categories of IET members who are at least engineering & technology related.

 -Ex-patriot, UK enterprise sales & marketing staff, Erasmus students, Enterprises from the UK that have delocalised with their staff, those that have married into families, entrepreneurs and SMEs in IT technology and those that now just want to work and live in France etc.

What would you advise
  • Should we have a MIET arrivals’ guide

  • Should we have guides to French language courses

  • Should we have guides to CPD in France

  • Should we give advice on French administration

  • What about the dos and don’ts of French culture.


Or should we just mind our own business and keep it to ourselves?

 

I recommend reading : Stephen Clarke – 1000 years of annoying the French and other titles and most of his references. French English history is not as taught in schools.
  •  Out of season hotels in France are cheap, maybe one or two visits with IET families or friends to E&T venues could be affordable.


And the French Community AGM & voting should be on line and at distance.

I’m retiring from E&T have fun in France

 

Give Rob McCann some help

 

John Gowman MIET (ex ITEME Grenobl 1980)

 

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    Keith Parr‍ I think it's about 100 LNs. That said, it comes with the caveat that not all LNs are equal in size and ambition. There are a number of countries that have a large land mass, small population, tiny IET membership and low density, which really can limit the effectiveness of emails, and especially if they're received by so few people. I can think of countries that fit that description but still manage to run good local networks through using social media, university notice boards and personal networks / word of mouth. Aside from all of that, there will be other socio-economic factors to consider such as access to the Internet or even a reliable electricity supply in some countries. With that context mind mind, it's probably not useful for all LNs to use Adestra, but more would certainly be a positive.


    Those not using Adestra still get emails sent out by staff. The important thing to remember is that email is just one channel and there's a number of ways of communicating with members. I honestly don't know (although I can see the reports exist in our database, I've never really needed to look at them in detail) what proportion of members are signed up to receive email communications, but I wouldn't necessarily agree that it's a useful figure to have. If members have unsubscribed and genuinely have no interest in engaging beyond maintaining their membership, then I think it's probably a good thing that they don't get a load of email that they'll never read. I believe open rates are normally around 20-30%, which is quite normal. The volunteer emails tend to exceed the average, which is why I describe them as a success. If members are more likely to open and read a more personal email from "Joe Bloggs from IET Exampleland", then I think that's a positive and something to celebrated.


    I wouldn't look too much into the comparison with MyCommunity or any IET online platform. Although profiles on this platform are linked to the central membership database and we have single sign-on, the members of a group are an entirely different data set to those who we can email via Adestra.


    On Europe, the LN strategy is written and owned by the EMEA-CC. CCs (communities committees) have the autonomy to prioritise opportunities and decisions are made by members. I'm not up to date on their strategy for Europe, so that's probably a question for them. They're just going into a new session and with a new Chair (based in Switzerland), so the direction for the next few years might be up for debate. I'm sure the sales teams have their own strategy for Europe, but I imagine that's commercially sensitive and it's not something that I'm familiar with.
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    Keith Parr‍ I think it's about 100 LNs. That said, it comes with the caveat that not all LNs are equal in size and ambition. There are a number of countries that have a large land mass, small population, tiny IET membership and low density, which really can limit the effectiveness of emails, and especially if they're received by so few people. I can think of countries that fit that description but still manage to run good local networks through using social media, university notice boards and personal networks / word of mouth. Aside from all of that, there will be other socio-economic factors to consider such as access to the Internet or even a reliable electricity supply in some countries. With that context mind mind, it's probably not useful for all LNs to use Adestra, but more would certainly be a positive.


    Those not using Adestra still get emails sent out by staff. The important thing to remember is that email is just one channel and there's a number of ways of communicating with members. I honestly don't know (although I can see the reports exist in our database, I've never really needed to look at them in detail) what proportion of members are signed up to receive email communications, but I wouldn't necessarily agree that it's a useful figure to have. If members have unsubscribed and genuinely have no interest in engaging beyond maintaining their membership, then I think it's probably a good thing that they don't get a load of email that they'll never read. I believe open rates are normally around 20-30%, which is quite normal. The volunteer emails tend to exceed the average, which is why I describe them as a success. If members are more likely to open and read a more personal email from "Joe Bloggs from IET Exampleland", then I think that's a positive and something to celebrated.


    I wouldn't look too much into the comparison with MyCommunity or any IET online platform. Although profiles on this platform are linked to the central membership database and we have single sign-on, the members of a group are an entirely different data set to those who we can email via Adestra.


    On Europe, the LN strategy is written and owned by the EMEA-CC. CCs (communities committees) have the autonomy to prioritise opportunities and decisions are made by members. I'm not up to date on their strategy for Europe, so that's probably a question for them. They're just going into a new session and with a new Chair (based in Switzerland), so the direction for the next few years might be up for debate. I'm sure the sales teams have their own strategy for Europe, but I imagine that's commercially sensitive and it's not something that I'm familiar with.
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