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What do I expect from IET – Community - France & Paris.

Former Community Member
Former Community Member
Firstly who are the IET Fr MIET members?

I joined this PEI in 1980 from Grenoble. I was on substantive leave from MoD. I decided to stay for a longer period and got married here. At that time we were the first to come over with the EU agreements of that period.

There were already ex-patriot UK people with huge benefits living here, there were the UK EU adventurers with no objectives but work was abundant, there were the first student exchanges, and some had married into French families. I did not meet any UK people who simply came here to live and work at that time.

 

Most of us found the difference between the UK and France as difficult as between the UK and China. They just did not live, eat or drink like us.

 

I was advised by the first UK settlers to just join in and enjoy myself, which I did.

I first met French culture when I organised the “entente cordiale” between the Concorde R&D groups of UK RAE and French ONERA. It was unbelievable, when the opportunity to have a job and career change came, I took up nuclear engineering in France.

 

I returned to the UK which had drastically changed – Thatcher, strikes, riots. My name  was plagiarised in my work. I had to leave the UK after my employers failed to protect me. I returned to France.

The first time every one talked of the quality of life in France, the second time it was the Iraqi wars and crisis.

 

So what do you need to work and survive in France now and how can the IET French Community help.

France is huge; it is not realistic to travel from SE or SW France for a meeting in Paris.

Maybe we need a newcomers guide such as most French towns give to new arrivals.

France is still totally different from the UK.

We have different categories of IET members who are at least engineering & technology related.

 -Ex-patriot, UK enterprise sales & marketing staff, Erasmus students, Enterprises from the UK that have delocalised with their staff, those that have married into families, entrepreneurs and SMEs in IT technology and those that now just want to work and live in France etc.

What would you advise
  • Should we have a MIET arrivals’ guide

  • Should we have guides to French language courses

  • Should we have guides to CPD in France

  • Should we give advice on French administration

  • What about the dos and don’ts of French culture.


Or should we just mind our own business and keep it to ourselves?

 

I recommend reading : Stephen Clarke – 1000 years of annoying the French and other titles and most of his references. French English history is not as taught in schools.
  •  Out of season hotels in France are cheap, maybe one or two visits with IET families or friends to E&T venues could be affordable.


And the French Community AGM & voting should be on line and at distance.

I’m retiring from E&T have fun in France

 

Give Rob McCann some help

 

John Gowman MIET (ex ITEME Grenobl 1980)

 

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  • Lisa Miles  I sense a certain defensiveness which I would like to think was not called for <smile>.  As I think you know I have always enjoyed excellent support from the LN staff (eg Deborah and of course yourself!) so I fully support your plea for LN committees frequently to talk to staff contacts.


    you're asking for the IET to hand over it's members personal data



    No.  To the extent I am asking for anything, it is for the IET not to prevent LNs accumulating name, address, and contact details (and NOT "personal data" which is both emotive and all-encompassing) freely given by members (and non-members) to the LN for the purposes of keeping such people abreast of those things that the LN committee consider to be of interest.


    Data Protection is something that has become stricter and stricter over recent years and the halcyon days of the LN Secretary having a copy of the members data for their area has long gone



    I know, I know, no need to remind me.  And if I interpret what I read in the press correctly, it's about to get even stricter ...  But I'm glad you, too, see them as halcyon days <grin>.


    I did follow the DP training, but I'm no longer sure for how long my "certificate" is valid!


    Might you be able to tell us the number of members in the French LN, the number of those who we believe are reached by Adestra mailings, and the proportion which is considered opened / read?


    Keith

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  • Lisa Miles  I sense a certain defensiveness which I would like to think was not called for <smile>.  As I think you know I have always enjoyed excellent support from the LN staff (eg Deborah and of course yourself!) so I fully support your plea for LN committees frequently to talk to staff contacts.


    you're asking for the IET to hand over it's members personal data



    No.  To the extent I am asking for anything, it is for the IET not to prevent LNs accumulating name, address, and contact details (and NOT "personal data" which is both emotive and all-encompassing) freely given by members (and non-members) to the LN for the purposes of keeping such people abreast of those things that the LN committee consider to be of interest.


    Data Protection is something that has become stricter and stricter over recent years and the halcyon days of the LN Secretary having a copy of the members data for their area has long gone



    I know, I know, no need to remind me.  And if I interpret what I read in the press correctly, it's about to get even stricter ...  But I'm glad you, too, see them as halcyon days <grin>.


    I did follow the DP training, but I'm no longer sure for how long my "certificate" is valid!


    Might you be able to tell us the number of members in the French LN, the number of those who we believe are reached by Adestra mailings, and the proportion which is considered opened / read?


    Keith

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