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What do I expect from IET – Community - France & Paris.

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Firstly who are the IET Fr MIET members?

I joined this PEI in 1980 from Grenoble. I was on substantive leave from MoD. I decided to stay for a longer period and got married here. At that time we were the first to come over with the EU agreements of that period.

There were already ex-patriot UK people with huge benefits living here, there were the UK EU adventurers with no objectives but work was abundant, there were the first student exchanges, and some had married into French families. I did not meet any UK people who simply came here to live and work at that time.

 

Most of us found the difference between the UK and France as difficult as between the UK and China. They just did not live, eat or drink like us.

 

I was advised by the first UK settlers to just join in and enjoy myself, which I did.

I first met French culture when I organised the “entente cordiale” between the Concorde R&D groups of UK RAE and French ONERA. It was unbelievable, when the opportunity to have a job and career change came, I took up nuclear engineering in France.

 

I returned to the UK which had drastically changed – Thatcher, strikes, riots. My name  was plagiarised in my work. I had to leave the UK after my employers failed to protect me. I returned to France.

The first time every one talked of the quality of life in France, the second time it was the Iraqi wars and crisis.

 

So what do you need to work and survive in France now and how can the IET French Community help.

France is huge; it is not realistic to travel from SE or SW France for a meeting in Paris.

Maybe we need a newcomers guide such as most French towns give to new arrivals.

France is still totally different from the UK.

We have different categories of IET members who are at least engineering & technology related.

 -Ex-patriot, UK enterprise sales & marketing staff, Erasmus students, Enterprises from the UK that have delocalised with their staff, those that have married into families, entrepreneurs and SMEs in IT technology and those that now just want to work and live in France etc.

What would you advise
  • Should we have a MIET arrivals’ guide

  • Should we have guides to French language courses

  • Should we have guides to CPD in France

  • Should we give advice on French administration

  • What about the dos and don’ts of French culture.


Or should we just mind our own business and keep it to ourselves?

 

I recommend reading : Stephen Clarke – 1000 years of annoying the French and other titles and most of his references. French English history is not as taught in schools.
  •  Out of season hotels in France are cheap, maybe one or two visits with IET families or friends to E&T venues could be affordable.


And the French Community AGM & voting should be on line and at distance.

I’m retiring from E&T have fun in France

 

Give Rob McCann some help

 

John Gowman MIET (ex ITEME Grenobl 1980)

 

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  • Former Community Member
    0 Former Community Member
    To all MIET who reside in France.


    I think that I have got my point over.


    There were some good industrial visits in the last few years, but I was not aware of them.


    The Paris EPR meeting was very good, I met Rob after the meeting, I did not meet any other IET member, I asked to be introduced but no one knew who they were.


    It is up to French resident IET members to say what they expect from IET France,and for the Paris based committee to push the IET HQ Committees team to be more supportive.


    Technology visits or conferences should be open to all.


    This site has been pretty silent in the past, I have got the ball rolling; now Iam dropping out of engineering & technology.


    If all members want is E&T, and a title, then save money and close down EU communities.


    I believe that living in a European country before BREXIT was a tremendous challenge, even more so if you were not posted here.

    PEs need advice on the rules, customs and procedures to live & work over here, they need to know the structure of science and technology in each european country.

    They need to know how to change employers and how to educate their children and espouses / partners.


    So i'll let you carry on but make communities and HQ be more responsive -

      -why not reissue the IET Web, Communities France ( & other communities in europe) site details to al MIET's resident in each country and use a once a year call by email for members to attend the annual meeting and publish the minutes of each AGM?


    If members are not interested or have other interests, then just carry on as before.


    We have had our say on "What do I expect from IET – Community - France & Paris."


    Let's see some positive action.
    This blog should end now,


    John Gowman


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  • Former Community Member
    0 Former Community Member
    To all MIET who reside in France.


    I think that I have got my point over.


    There were some good industrial visits in the last few years, but I was not aware of them.


    The Paris EPR meeting was very good, I met Rob after the meeting, I did not meet any other IET member, I asked to be introduced but no one knew who they were.


    It is up to French resident IET members to say what they expect from IET France,and for the Paris based committee to push the IET HQ Committees team to be more supportive.


    Technology visits or conferences should be open to all.


    This site has been pretty silent in the past, I have got the ball rolling; now Iam dropping out of engineering & technology.


    If all members want is E&T, and a title, then save money and close down EU communities.


    I believe that living in a European country before BREXIT was a tremendous challenge, even more so if you were not posted here.

    PEs need advice on the rules, customs and procedures to live & work over here, they need to know the structure of science and technology in each european country.

    They need to know how to change employers and how to educate their children and espouses / partners.


    So i'll let you carry on but make communities and HQ be more responsive -

      -why not reissue the IET Web, Communities France ( & other communities in europe) site details to al MIET's resident in each country and use a once a year call by email for members to attend the annual meeting and publish the minutes of each AGM?


    If members are not interested or have other interests, then just carry on as before.


    We have had our say on "What do I expect from IET – Community - France & Paris."


    Let's see some positive action.
    This blog should end now,


    John Gowman


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