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Google fire man who claims that women are underrepresented because they are biologically different, not because of bias....

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Ok, there's a bit more to it than is in the headlines, but you can see the full "anti-diversity manifesto" here. It's quite a read!


My personal reading is this was written by someone well-meaning but extremely mis-led and confused about why tech companies need to address diversity. It's also full of conjecture and is unnecessarily divisive (constant references to "left" and "right").


Were they right to fire him? Or was he perfectly entitled to publish his thoughts, regardless of whether or not we (or his employer) like it? Any other thoughts on the manifesto? Was there a fair point buried somewhere in the ranting?




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    "Posted by Antonia Tzemanaki on Aug 10, 2017 11:34 am



    I have to say that I did not want to take part in this very unpleasant discussion."

    And your reply is yet another example of why your cause fails. You see what you want to see and still do not solve the problem. You do not say why it is an unpleasant discussion. I venture to suggest that in view of the fact that you have picked out and tried to make an issue of all my comments about motherhood and work you are yet another example of a woman who has an anti-male bias and let's her emotions cloud her reasoning. Hence the discussion is unpleasant...
    If you had focused on the facts - that it's the industrialist who determines your worth and that it's this "worth" to which all the discussions are referring, then we may get somewhere; you – women-kind may get somewhere, but you have just degenerated your own argument into misogynism. As someone once said "I don't believe it!" The industrialists reading this must be laughing their heads off…
    If you want to solve this problem, stick to the reasoning and facts. You can’t begin crying or getting all huffy and complaining that men hate us and have a hope in hell that you will solve the problem. Get a grip or you will continue as per you forebears. And so far it appears (46 years later) that this is exactly what is happening. Here am I pointing out where you are making a big mistake and you are trying to lynch me! No wonder women get nowhere with this issue.
    And as for things getting better, please look at the facts: has family life been improving or regressing? Have women got anywhere near being paid the same as men? NO! And to me I see nothing to suggest things will improve but only that they will get worse.
    “Regulations and laws protecting the workers' rights can be put in place even in a capitalistic system.” Well you will have to live your life to see that such laws have no teeth eg the Equal Pay act. If you put the industrialist in gaol who will create industry? No, you are greatly mistaken but you will have to live your life to see that I am pretty close to the truth… For goodness sake, why are we still having this discussion if change was happening? If anything was going to change then it would have done years ago.
    And as for the relevance of Dads in this discussion, that is irrelevant. They are very relevant in the discussion about family life, but we are discussing why women are not valued the same as men at work.

     

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    "Posted by Antonia Tzemanaki on Aug 10, 2017 11:34 am



    I have to say that I did not want to take part in this very unpleasant discussion."

    And your reply is yet another example of why your cause fails. You see what you want to see and still do not solve the problem. You do not say why it is an unpleasant discussion. I venture to suggest that in view of the fact that you have picked out and tried to make an issue of all my comments about motherhood and work you are yet another example of a woman who has an anti-male bias and let's her emotions cloud her reasoning. Hence the discussion is unpleasant...
    If you had focused on the facts - that it's the industrialist who determines your worth and that it's this "worth" to which all the discussions are referring, then we may get somewhere; you – women-kind may get somewhere, but you have just degenerated your own argument into misogynism. As someone once said "I don't believe it!" The industrialists reading this must be laughing their heads off…
    If you want to solve this problem, stick to the reasoning and facts. You can’t begin crying or getting all huffy and complaining that men hate us and have a hope in hell that you will solve the problem. Get a grip or you will continue as per you forebears. And so far it appears (46 years later) that this is exactly what is happening. Here am I pointing out where you are making a big mistake and you are trying to lynch me! No wonder women get nowhere with this issue.
    And as for things getting better, please look at the facts: has family life been improving or regressing? Have women got anywhere near being paid the same as men? NO! And to me I see nothing to suggest things will improve but only that they will get worse.
    “Regulations and laws protecting the workers' rights can be put in place even in a capitalistic system.” Well you will have to live your life to see that such laws have no teeth eg the Equal Pay act. If you put the industrialist in gaol who will create industry? No, you are greatly mistaken but you will have to live your life to see that I am pretty close to the truth… For goodness sake, why are we still having this discussion if change was happening? If anything was going to change then it would have done years ago.
    And as for the relevance of Dads in this discussion, that is irrelevant. They are very relevant in the discussion about family life, but we are discussing why women are not valued the same as men at work.

     

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