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Severe Tinnitus Following the Installation of New Electricity Meters

Since new gas and electricity meters were installed in my house on 9 February 2022, I have had a very serious problem with tinnitus. I also have had a feeling of strong pressure on my eardrums. Let me say straight away that this is nothing to do with smart meter communications; the hub responsible for mobile and Wi-Fi signals was removed one week after the meters were installed as a final attempt by the energy company to solve the problem. Various engineers I’ve been in contact with over this matter suspect the problem is most likely to be a switched-mode power supply or capacitors associated with it. I would like to know more about how such a device upset my health to the point that I do not feel it is safe to live in my own home. The energy company have refused to carry out any further work to investigate the issue and state that their meters meet all the current standards and are therefore safe.

I did not have any problems with the traditional analogue meters previously installed. I should add that I’ve been in houses that have smart electricity meters of various types and only in one of those houses do I feel my tinnitus tone is being amplified and none result in any pressure feelings on my eardrums. The first meter, a Landis+Gyr E470 was replaced with a Kaifa MA120 five days after complaining to my energy company. The Landis+Gyr meter was unbearable to live with any longer than that. The Kaifa model has seen me leave home twice for respite despite discovering on how to dampen down the tinnitus and greatly reduce the pressure feeling on my eardrums. The Kaifa makes an awful little noise which if I could hear that while in the living room, I could understand why my ears are being irritated. The Landis+Gyr also made a similar noise but a little quieter. However, should such devices make any audible noise at all? Some people don’t have the ability to hide these away in cupboards. I can hear the Kaifa meter 2 to 3 metres away with the cupboard door open where it is installed. A short recording of the continuous noise it makes can be heard in the following mp3 file:

My tinnitus grew into a significant problem within 24 hours of the Landis+Gyr meter being installed. I’ve had tinnitus in the past and was cautious to blame the new gas and electric meters at first, but I soon noticed this was very different to previous bouts of tinnitus: I found the affect would wane when away from the house and be amplified back to ‘horribly irritating’ upon return. The pressure feeling on my eardrums 'throbbed away' as soon as I got a short distance away from my house, it too would come back very quickly upon returning inside. When the Landis+Gyr meter was shutdown for replacement, it was an hour before the Kaifa meter was switched on. That is the only time I’ve been in the house since the new meters were installed on 9 February that my ears have felt calm, albeit the tinnitus tone only very slowly fades away. Unfortunately that short period of time was to end with a shock when the Kaifa was powered on; I felt a short burst of pain in both ears making me flinch in my seat. I was not watching what the fitter was doing and had to ask him what had just happened. He stated he had just powered up the meter with the distribution board still switched off. I’m horrified that simply turning on the meter could cause me pain, not to mention the fact the tinnitus and pressure feeling came back with this new meter.

With the aid of a friend who is also has a background in electrical and electronic engineering, I made the discovery that the effects of the meter can be reduced by turning off electrical devices plugged into the mains supply and found by turning off the ring main supplying the bedroom overnight, I could achieve better sleep, albeit still not adequate. Suspicion then was that the meter was emitting something being carried around the house via the mains cabling as opposed to just emitting something from itself. I requested help from the local power distribution company who sent out an engineer to check for electromagnetic fields. No unusually strong fields were found, however the engineer said he could perceive a high pitch tone and a bit of pressure on his eardrums. So far the only other person to sense something of what I am experiencing and I at least do not feel alone any more. He asked me to try powering down electrical equipment before turning the distribution board off and we both felt a relief from the pressure as soon as I turned off the television and surround sound system. The surround sound system along with most other audio equipment are now unplugged and the sense of pressure on my eardrums is much less noticeable. The engineer mentioned that tantalum capacitors and switched-mode power supplies can be a source of noise at frequencies in the audible range if they are defective or inadequately filtered.

Unfortunately the tinnitus tone has been gaining strength recently worsening my sleep down to just 2 hours a night. Hence I have had to leave my house again for respite, immediately achieving nearly 7 hours sleep on my first night away despite the tone having hardly subsided. I have used a tone generator to match the tinnitus at 14kHz. Sound analyser applications on my smart phone don’t show anything unusual at this frequency, but there is some low frequency noise below 100Hz and high frequency noise around 20kHz. Both are at low volumes, albeit I hardly think the microphone on a smart phone can be trusted at these low and high frequencies. However, what is interesting is that noise in the 17kHz to 21kHz range is hardly present when I am in other houses with smart meters where my tinnitus is not amplified and it is present in the only other house I know where my tinnitus is amplified. It could be a red herring, but there must be strange harmonics involved one way or another.

I’ve spent a great deal of time researching the Internet trying to find out about the problems with tinnitus and smart meters. I find people reporting life affecting tinnitus within two days of having smart meters fitted and then the forum responses where they posted concentrate on the arguments about Wi-Fi and mobile phone signals, neither of which apply here and then they soon degenerate into conspiracy theories about smart meters. (I’d have been very disturbed by tinnitus for the last 20 years if I had any sensitivity to radiation from mobile phones and Wi-Fi routers.) I’ve been in touch with the British Tinnitus Association and they have confirmed my case is “not without precedent”. I’ve had an email discussion with a specialist audiologist who states that the link between electrical apparatus and tinnitus is not scientifically proven but it is known some people can be hyper-sensitive. I’ve not knowingly been sensitive to any electrical devices in the past. I've had a hearing test which proves my hearing in the normal range is very good for my age, just some mild loss in the 7kHz to 8kHz range. The tone generators I used to match my tinnitus show I can hear tones up to around 15kHz, subject to the quality of these tone generator apps, websites and speakers within my smart phone and attached to my computer.

Maybe the arguments over smart meters and health problems have been clouded by the debate on Wi-Fi and mobile phone signals rather than the quality of the electronics in these meters. The electronics engineers who have pointed out the problem is likely to be the switched-mode power supply or capacitors within the electricity meter have done so independently, based in three different countries, which proves to me there is some concern about these components which obviously are in lots more devices than just meters. There is a difference though: I have two devices which have power supplies, almost certainly switched-mode, that make audible noises, but these can be turned off and would be replaced if I suspected they were causing any health concerns. The electricity meter is not something that can be turned off and replaced by the householder, it has to be changed by the energy company and any interference with it is illegal. I’m currently left in a position where I am reporting health effects coincident with the meters being fitted, locational to my house, affected by household electrical equipment and I'm so afflicted I am renting accommodation at some expense away from home, but being told by the company they are not going to do anything about it. They asked me switch company if I wanted the meter changing again and issued me with a deadlock letter so that I could take my case to the Energy Ombudsman as the only alternative. Either takes more weeks than I would like to contemplate, I've suffered more than enough already.

As switching energy companies at the current time is very difficult and very expensive without having to make the unusual request to remove a virtually new meter, I have started a complaint with the Ombudsman and I need to supply them with as much evidence as possible to prove the electricity meter is causing my health problem. There does not appear to be anyway of enabling the meter to be replaced as a matter of urgency given all my personal evidence as described above. If anyone can provide any advice or evidence that the quality of these meters can result in problems like I am experiencing I would be very grateful indeed. If anyone is researching in this area I would be very happy to help them with my experience, I do not fancy a future where such tinnitus inducing devices are common to every home.

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  • I thought that engineering was a science, so let's have a more scientific approach please.

    Either ARB is hearing noises from the various meters or he has tinnitus. If the meters are emitting noise, it should be audible to others.

    If ARB has tinnitus, the treatment is tinnitus therapy and not changing electricity meters.

    There is no good evidence that human beings can detect electromagnetic radiation. Those who report it share the same symptoms as those with other medically unexplained syndromes. See Rubin GJ et al. Idiopathic environmental intolerance attributed to electromagnetic fields (formerly 'electromagnetic hypersensitivity'): An updated systematic review of provocation studies. Bioelectromagnetics 2010 Jan; Vol. 31 (1), pp. 1-11.

  • I thought that engineering was a science, so let's have a more scientific approach please.

    Engineering is also a profession, and this is the forum of the UK electrotechnical professional society, so let's have a more professional approach, please. Starting with courtesy.

    There is no good evidence that human beings can detect electromagnetic radiation.

    I see. I wonder, have you ever stood in front of a radiator and felt warm? Have you ever opened your eyes and seen things?

    Humans are also good at detecting electromagnetic fields. If you heve ever been outside in a severe electric storm, you will have felt it in your ears and on your arms and hands. (The ears in particular; when we are out in the mountains, that is what tells us it is time to stop what we are doing and seek cover.) 

    One thing "science" encourages in its practitioners is careful and precise statement of assertions. The other is giving and discussing reasons for assertions, which is why I asked you for yours (you demurred, above).

    One particular aspect of medical science, and medicine, is that its able practitioners do not make definitive statements about people presenting with symptoms unless they have personally examined them. AR Brearley has, on his own account, not only been examined, but has been provisionally diagnosed and on the basis of that has a medical recommendation to get a piece of electrical/electronic equipment removed from his home and replaced with another, because the medic thinks it may well be causative or contributory.

    I take it you have few or no medical qualifications (because, if you had, I can't see you having written what you wrote in the way you did). But you feel yourself somehow able to contradict AR Brearley's medic's advice even though you've not even met the man, let alone examined him. And you do that on the basis of a semantic quibble about the meaning of "tinnitus". 

    I think we can expect better. I would encourage it. I would also encourage some sympathy with AR Brearley's situation. It is no fun not being able to live and sleep in your own home.

  • I am not going to be drawn into argument ad hominem - that does not advance the science, nor does it help ARB.

    I know that the electricity meter is not responsible for his tinnitus because no electricity meter is capable of causing it.

    (Yes, I do realise that there is a visible part of the spectrum and that if you get too close to radar equipment, you may be cooked, but we both know that is not the topic here.)

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  • I am not going to be drawn into argument ad hominem - that does not advance the science, nor does it help ARB.

    I know that the electricity meter is not responsible for his tinnitus because no electricity meter is capable of causing it.

    (Yes, I do realise that there is a visible part of the spectrum and that if you get too close to radar equipment, you may be cooked, but we both know that is not the topic here.)

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  • I know that the electricity meter is not responsible for his tinnitus because no electricity meter is capable of causing it.

    AR Brearley has posted graphics of ultraacoustic fields which appear to be emanating from electrics/electronics around the installation of the meter. The octave overtone of a peak in those fields is the 12-tone overtone of his tinnitus sensitivity frequency. 

    There is an obvious partial causal chain there, which is why I originally suggested you take the causality seriously. If you are not sure how to go about causal reasoning, I can recommend my textbook to you. 

  • Chris,

    I have posted and mentioned several times the document I am reposting here. Would you care to comment on this document which explains why meters can cause tinnitus and other health effects?

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    The vestibular audiologist who I have been conversing with over email has stated she finds the document fascinating and makes sense to her. This document has resulted in her helping me try to contact top tinnitus researchers in the UK. I hope that I will be able to make progress on the full medical explanation of what is happening to me one way or another. As I have no medical training, all I can do for now is report what is happening to me and as I have done, report the results of tests I have been able to make as an engineer, evidence of the problem I have found online from sources that can be considered reliable and the circumstantial evidence which points directly to the meter being the culprit. Mr Light has ruled out everything else in his house also, his wife is also afflicted if to a lesser degree. I have had a visitor who is a medical professional start complaining of head and ear pains within an hour of being in my house. She's been many times without issues prior to 9 February. There's also Dan in Australia too who is experiencing bad problems trying to rectify her situation.

    I stand by every word I have said in this forum, to my doctors, to my energy company, other energy companies, to the Energy Ombudsman et al. Something has been wrong in my house since 9 February. Organisations that should be helping me are not and I desperately need a solution. Even refitting an analogue meter is only a sticking plaster on this matter, I will get tinnitus again in the future if noise suppression is not improved in meters and other devices coming along in large quantities in our 'smart green future'.

    I have been out of the house several hours today. I come back in and the tinnitus intensifies again, just as it has in such circumstances since the 9 February when the Landis+Gyr E470 smart meter was installed, since 14 February with the Kaifa MA120 and now since 11 July with the AMPY 5246C meter. These are the only things that have changed in this period. I could feel the tinnitus increase in intensity when the fitter powered up the AMPY meter with the distribution board switched off. Why am I suffering painful high pitch tinnitus if it is not the meter since the analogue meter was taken away on 9 February. Why does it fade between meter exchanges? Why are so many other people complaining of tinnitus after meter installations? Just Google "smart meter tinnitus" and just see how many results come back. The quantity of people complaining cannot be ignored, many of the reasons and remedies maybe, but people aren't complaining about tinnitus being triggered after installation of meters for the fun of it. There are some very sad cases out there.

    What is there to gain by making this up? I don't like fuss, I hate publicity, I wish the smart meter installation had not caused me any problems. Instead I have been thrown into a world of science some people like yourself doubt, but I must keep going until I have answers and solutions, this is having such an impact on my life and others.

    Andrew