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A wonderful comment has just been made in the Grenfell inquiry about fire risk assessment.

David Stone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-mBMcX_2pA About 1 hour 3 minutes from the end.  (-1:03:00)

Competence is under discussion for Fire Engineers, it might well apply to electricians, and designers too. and is all about assessing risk.

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    it doesn't *have* to cost more (monetary/currency) to apply the very best gold standards at the time to anything delivered does it, but the vested interest socio-economic systems sustained for aeons dictate that it does ... sadly.

    who shall 'we' blame they cry !

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  • (rhetoric)

    it doesn't *have* to cost more (monetary/currency) to apply the very best gold standards at the time to anything delivered does it, but the vested interest socio-economic systems sustained for aeons dictate that it does ... sadly.

    who shall 'we' blame they cry !

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  • in reply to psychicwarrior

    It's still happening now. The site I'm working on has a terrible Designer who has missed out the bit that says the Life Safety Systems supply needs to have a supply independent of the buildings main supply. (They have taken a jointed supply off the incoming building supply - that is hardly an independent supply!)

    And the Contractor is missing crucial things like cables should be in FP, but they think LSF T+E is good enough. Luckily I'm just a Worker, so nothing will come back on me, I have informed them about these failings, and nothing has been done.

    As you say, the cost would be marginal to get these right in the first place, the extra joint in the underground cable must have cost £5k+, which, if thought about beforehand, could have supplied a battery back up system.

    The FP and LSF cable costs are similar, it doesnt cost a great deal more to fit FP in the first place. 

    And on a similar note, I came across SWA this week that I thought wasnt fire rated, BS7846 F2. It looked and felt just like standard SWA. No glass fibre coating or powdered internals. I had to look it up as I thought this was another mistake by the Contractor, but, no, accorrding to the data sheet, it was suitable to supply a fire alarm panel. 

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