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New Proposed Sizewell C

It is being bulit just above sea level on a sandy coast. Is this wise?

A new nuclear power station needs a vast supply of water. But where will Sizewell C get it from? | William Atkins | The Guardian

Z.

  • The old oil fuelled power station at Pembroke Dock used to use sea water for cooling - so that seems plausible. I'm puzzled why they need so much fresh water for operation too (I can understand it for construction - just mixing that much concrete will require a huge amount) but for cooling couldn't they heat-exchange the heat to sea water and re-cycle the fresh? Or it is needed for some other process?

       - Andy.

  • They'll have plenty of sea water when alleged "climate change" raises sea levels.

    Z.

  • They'll have plenty of sea water when alleged "climate change" raises sea levels.

    LaughingLaughing

  • you can only sensibly boil fresh water for steam to drive the turbines or very soon you need to chip salt out of the boilers. But you can cool condensors and cooling ponds and similar non boiling things with, it and at places like Bradwell this is certainly already  done.

    2 million litres a day sounds a lot, at 2000 cubic metres but at about a tonne and a half a minute (1 cubic meter ~ 1tonne) compares to a single fire hydrant, of the sort the water companies have lots of on their networks.  A large demand, but not an impossible one.

    Mike

  • I would think the key issue is a tsunami. The possibility of a large Atlantic tsunami generated by the collapse of La Palma in the Canary Islands is well known; earthquake-generated tsunamis in the Atlantic are, I think, not known to be a problem. The site is protected somewhat by Ireland from open-sea Atlantic phenomena, but I don't know if anyone's done a sim to see how tsunamis get channeled into the Irish Sea and the English Channel. Somebody probably has. 

    Sea level rise, even worst anticipated case, from climate change can be addressed through building dykes. Current Dutch engineering is up to the task, as far as I can tell.

    You could probably even counter the effects of a La Palma-type mega-tsunami in that location by installing diversion breakwaters coupled with dykes, maybe a series of dykes, because any tsunami is going to be coming 90° across the site, from west to east, rather than full-on. But I'll leave that judgement to the hydraulic engineers.

    But, of course, it has actually got to be spec'd and done. 

    One ameliorating factor is that at Hinkley the key emergency resources are not sitting in the basement ............

  • Odd. I just wrote a reply which did not appear.

    The main acute problem would be tsunamis. The Atlantic is not known to be a location for earthquake-induced tsunamis; the key danger is the possible collapse of La Palma in the Canaries. Exactly how such a tsunami would play out in that location is a matter for simulation. I don't know it has been done but I suspect it has. An obvious way to get a PhD in marine engineering is to perform a viable simulation.

    Sea level rise anticipated from climate change, even worst-case, can surely be countered with dykes. Current Dutch engineering is well up to that task.

    Given the location, any tsunami will also be traversing the site rather than coming full-on, so can probably be mitigated with diversion breakwaters and then dykes, maybe in multiple.

    But of course they actually have to be spec'd and built. Just knowing that and how something can be done does not ensure that it will be done.

  • Peter. You are so miss informed or just ignorant.

    Sea level rise is constant and not accelerating in an alarming way.

    Also, f you build a reactor in a tsunami area without consideration of the possible surge height then your standby cooling generators will get washed away in the surge.

    Pretty obvious really.

  • Peter. You are so miss informed or just ignorant.

    Interesting spelling.

    Also, an interesting sequence of non-sequiturs. 

    What it shows is that, if you play bots in the right way, you can quickly get them to spout out obvious garbage.

    BTW, anyone who Googles "Ladkin Fukushima" will see a number of reasons why many people think I am expert in this subject. I was invited to give an SSS'12 Keynote talk on it. The paper is essentially the one on ResearchGate, but if one goes to https://scsc.uk/scsc-116 there is also a link to a video of the talk.

  • Sea level rise is constant and not accelerating in an alarming way.

    What data set are you using for this assertion?

  • www.dropbox.com/.../lowestoft tide gauge 1964 to 2012.pdf