Reasons why I suffered tinnitus, insomnia, chronic fatigue, and other health problems after having digital electricity meters installed

In my last reply to my previous EngX discussion Severe Tinnitus Following the Installation of New Electricity Meters, which is still attracting a lot of viewings over a year on, I stated that my hunt would continue for medical and electrical answers as to why I had suffered bad health reactions including; tinnitus, insomnia, chronic fatigue, migraine, tingles and twitches, sore eyes, sinus problems, blood pressure problems and several other symptoms, during a 197 day ordeal while my home was fitted with a series of 5 digital electricity meters. To some extent, it still remains work in progress, there's a few pieces of the jigsaw to find, but having already found some very concerning science about non‑ionising radiation, how protection from it is regulated and plenty of evidence of others suffering similarly, it is time for an update:

The suspicion that switched-mode power supplies (SMPS) without noise suppression as used by digital electricity meters affected my health has to be valid as all my symptoms considerably improved within 7 days of the traditional electro-mechanical meter being fitted, almost all to the point where they were no longer noticeable. The peaks of electrical noise I found using the FFT function on my oscilloscope prior to fitting this meter on the mains wiring within my home were no longer present. I felt I had been given my life back and I remain grateful to my energy supplier for eventually fulfilling my ever increasingly desperate requests to have such a meter reinstalled.

Unfortunately the 197 day ordeal endured has left its mark and, as many other sufferers have reported, the longer you are exposed to what is causing the health reactions, the more difficult it is to return back to normal. Tinnitus lingers on - unless I am away from my home and other places that seem to still stimulate it. (ie It remains an environmental problem.) What I haven’t had to do since 25 August last year is to abandon my house for respite or sleep out in the garden, as I did so many times during my ordeal.

I have found science indicating that I was not far out with the notion of ultrasonics playing a role in the tinnitus, but rather than acoustics, it is electromagnetic fields oscillating in the ultrasonic range as a consequence of “dirty electricity” - extraneous frequencies on the AC mains in the tens and hundreds of kilohertz. Within human and many other animal ears (this isn’t just a human problem), the tectorial membrane coating hairs in the cochlea and the otoconia in the saccule are piezoelectric. As a result they will convert electric currents arising from ultrasonic frequencies of electric and electromagnetic fields into sound. The auditory nerve itself can be electrically stimulated. The result is that the human ear may be 5,000 to 10,000 times more sensitive to electric and electromagnetic fields oscillating at ultrasonic frequencies than at power line frequencies. The resulting sound is apparently filtered out my most people by their brains, but some people end up hearing a high pitched tinnitus tone close to the top of their hearing range. Resonance is an important factor on sustaining the effect and for starting it in the first place where field strengths are low. This all seems to fit so very closely with my own suffering of a high pitched tone close to the top of my hearing range.

There are also many other mechanisms for interference within the human body by electromagnetic fields. For example; generation of reactive oxygen species (ROS), increased free radical production and activation of voltage-gated calcium channels. These lead to oxidative stress and then all sorts of symptoms can arise including those I experienced last year, as shown in the diagram below:

As I reported in my original discussion, I am far from alone, finding others reporting similar symptoms to myself is quite easy to achieve. Surveys were carried out years ago when people started complaining of health impacts after meters started to be fitted in homes. Here’s a chart from a study of people who complained of health ailments in Australia and the USA after having smart meters fitted in their homes (Source: Steve Weller, 2015. The Biological Effects of Electromagnetic Radiation. 10.13140/RG.2.2.28585.47205.):

The first six of these symptoms figured highly in the period that I had digital meters installed in my home, plus one of the other symptoms. These symptoms, and those in the previous diagram, come up time and time again in reports from others on the ailments people experience in their homes after having had smart meters fitted. If you don’t believe me, then try searching online yourself, it shouldn’t take you very long to find them.

There is plenty of science to substantiate that harm is being done by exposure to man-made electromagnetic radiation. Over 100,000 peer reviewed scientific papers have been published. You can find more than 40,000 such publications and over 7,000 summaries of individual scientific studies at the “The EMF Portal”.

Unfortunately despite all the science and reports of people suffering the same set of symptoms, regulators do not want to admit there are any harmful effects from relatively low levels of man‑made electromagnetic radiation. Politicians do not understand what is happening to people and the environment as a consequence of something that is an invisible problem to all except the scientists working on the matter and those knowingly affected. The politicians refer to the regulators for advice and as they are not going to admit there is a problem with their own guidance, their reply always is; “there is no problem, everything is safe as the exposure is below the ICNIRP limits”. Any individuals complaining that there is a problem are then told they are the first to ever complain, nothing is wrong, despite many complaints previously going back well over a decade.

There are many scientists and campaigners calling for changes to how exposure limits are regulated and a search on the Internet will reveal immense dissatisfaction with the guidelines from the ICNIRP, the WHO’s “The International EMF Project” and other related radiation protection bodies through their stubbornness in not accepting any of the science that reveals harmful effects other than heating, despite another part of WHO declaring Electromagnetic Fields a “Class 2B possible carcinogen”. (See: https://www.iarc.who.int/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/pr208_E.pdf)  In 2021 a group of scientists, doctors and related professionals whose work and warnings on the effects of non-ionising radiation were constantly being ignored, set up the “International Commission on the Biological Effects of Electromagnetic Fields” with the aim of providing independent recommendations on exposure limits that do protect the public and the environment. (See: https://icbe-emf.org/)

There are problems not just with the magnitude of the limits currently imposed but also how radiation intensity is measured. For example, strong pulses of radiation are averaged out over a comparatively large timescale that reduces the intensity to a negligible amount when compared to the limit, but the pulse itself could have been above the limit for an instant and/or strong enough to create a shock-wave within the bioelectrical systems of the human body. Frequency as well as the intensity of the radiation is also a significant factor, certain frequencies at a low intensity can cause more effects than other frequencies at much higher intensities.

The ICNIRP, despite refusing to accept any science revealing harmful effects other than heating injury, states in its guidance for low frequencies (LF), the range that I believe had a significant detrimental affect on my health:

“When people are exposed to LF fields, electric fields and currents are generated inside the body and they can interfere with the body’s own electric fields and current flows related to normal biological functioning.”
(From: https://www.icnirp.org/en/frequencies/low-frequency/index.html)

What follows this statement are remarks about the effects being mainly unnoticed, temporary and inconsequential. This is not something I will ever concur with as my health so badly compromised last year. There is also a statement that high exposures can cause permanent irreversible cardio-vascular effects. Common effects reported for low exposure to frequencies caused by dirty electricity include; cardio vascular problems. Scarily, investigations into links with Alzheimer’s and ALS/MND are mentioned as being “inconclusive”, as are insomnia and cognitive functioning. I can vouch for the latter pair of ailments, I hope I never have to vouch for the former pair. There is also scientific evidence on childhood leukaemia resulting from exposure to high tension power lines, yet the ICNIRP state there is no proof of any such causation.

Despite requests, Russia refuses to follow the ICNIRP guidelines due to research it carried out during the Soviet era and remains alarmed that the West hasn’t heeded the science it shared some years ago. It sets its limits for levels of exposure at just 1% of the ICNIRP levels, as does China and many former Soviet and Eastern Bloc States. Here’s a comparison albeit these are limits applying for microwave frequency exposure (Source Jamieson, I. 2014: RF / Microwave Radiation Risk Awareness, Figure 1):

As you can see, some countries and regions in Western Europe take the matter even more seriously than Russia and China.

While not adopting stricter exposure limits yet, Sweden acknowledges the existence of electro‑hypersensitivity as a “functional impairment disability” with around 3.2% of the population already identified as sufferers. (Sweden is not alone in the recognition of EHS.) This would equate to over 2 million people in the UK. Some estimates of electro-hypersensitivity put the percentage at 12%, the median value seems to be between 5% and 6%, roughly equating to 3.5 million people in the UK. Note the charity ES-UK states that around 50% of the population will notice some sort of effect(s) and the rest don’t escape, they just won’t notice how they are being affected.

Thanks to the lead times in symptoms appearing and the medical profession having had no training to spot causation of symptoms via electro-hypersensitivity, cases are not being recorded and we simply do not know just how big the problem currently is in the UK. People who suspect they have symptoms due to an electrical device being installed in or near their home will be told it is simply nonsense. However, there are statistics for the related symptoms of tinnitus, insomnia, chronic fatigue, migraines and ADHD and many others indicating that these are all on the rise within the population, some rising as a percentage very quickly indeed. However, it seems no one in the NHS wants to take notice into the research pointing out these as symptoms of electromagnetic radiation exposure. My GPs are interested but say they don’t have time to look into the matter. Meanwhile, the pressure on their already stretched services for treatment regarding these ailments continues to increase.

One of the remaining questions I haven’t found any answers for yet is: “Why am I so different to have become hypersensitive before most others?” I don’t particularly feel special in any way, I might have more amalgam fillings than I would like (some people cite these as aiding and abetting such sensitivity but my dentist doesn’t see it as a worthwhile reason to go to the trouble of replacing them) and I’ve also had quite a few MRI scans in my time. However, I simply haven’t been able to establish any commonalities with other sufferers. Hence I can't state who will be vulnerable to this problem. I had no idea I would ever suffer like I did last year, I put my trust in the people who authoritatively stated there was nothing to be concerned about. They may easily be the next to suffer.

We all are electrical beings, animals and plants too. All are dead without internal electrical activity and all respond to electromagnetic fields, some at very low levels of intensity, birds for navigation as an example. (There are many scientific papers concerning effects on birds, bees and trees.) It appears that we all have our own individual threshold of tolerating interference from non‑ionising radiation. The diagram below was originally produced in Germany by Professor Karl Hecht in 2016, which depicts the different stages of coping:

The timescales involved are rather long, the human body can put up with so much, but at some point, failure to cope will occur. The timeline in the diagram is actually just an example to show how long the process can take and that’s one of the reasons EHS is so complicated to define as a causation of ill health. The other is that oxidative stress is caused by other things in our modern day lives. Ultra Processed Foods (UPFs) for example, which are facing similar complaints of ill health from scientists, while the government advice comes from people associated with the very industry producing UPFs and promoting them as being good for us. Check out the health data panel on the side of a can of diet cola for example. You might decide it's so healthy you want to drink nothing else. (Please don’t reply about that.)

Just over a year ago, I made contact the lead author of "Dirty power from new electricity meters: Key to a health problem?” (Please note links within this document have been fixed since the document was uploaded in my previous discussion). This document contains information on SMPS in electricity meters leading to tinnitus, insomnia, concentration problems, fatigue and joint pain. He pointed me to two books he and his co-authors had written on the entire subject of how ill health can result from smart and dumb electricity meters, but written in Norwegian. These books have since been fully translated into English, they include the above diagrams and much more of the science surrounding them. They are free to download from the author’s website:

https://einarflydal.com/sdm_downloads/download-smartmeters-dirty-electricity-pulses-and-health-pdf/

https://einarflydal.com/sdm_downloads/download-smart-meters-the-law-and-health-pdf/

Both books were originally written before my ordeal with digital meters began. “Smart meters, dirty electricity, pulses and health” is the most recent of the books and has had some updates during its translation. It provides quite a comprehensive view of the whole subject of health related problems arising from non-ionising radiation emitted by electricity meters plus other devices/equipment.

“Smart meters, the law and health” is more or less a direct translation of the Norwegian version with a few notes containing updated information. Part 1 of this book concerns the law in Norway, where smart meters were made mandatory, and the law concerning the European Convention on Human Rights. The Annexe, Part 2, is the forerunner of the other more recent book, but it contains some interesting additional details including how the ICNIRP and “The International EMF Project” were founded and how they operate to maintain the “thermal paradigm” that only heating effects need to be prevented. This book was originally published in 2018 and in the conclusion to Part 2, the author made this rather interesting prediction:

“From around 2022, there will be a tipping point in health statistics. From around 2025 it should be possible to observe that from 2022 there has been a growth in general morbidity, and the increase in morbidity will be steeper in the following 10-15 years. Some – the “electrically insensitive” – who in number are perhaps as numerous as the electrically hypersensitive – will go completely free.

The most common symptoms will be neuro-vegetative disturbances such as neuroses, depression, fatigue during the daytime, performance impairment, sleep problems, headaches, various changes in heart/vascular functions, hyperactivity, cardiac arrhythmia, tinnitus and inner restlessness.”

How true this prediction came for me in 2022. As for the prediction for the period 2025 to 2040 about increasing morbidity, a few months ago “The Health Foundation” made exactly the same prediction about increasing morbidity: 2.5 million more people in england projected to be living with major illness by 2040. The illnesses it cites as causing the rise in morbidity are; anxiety and depression, chronic pain and diabetes. Sifting through the research papers, these conditions come up time and again as long term problems with links to overexposure to non-ionising radiation, plus lots more of concern too. (For a lengthy list of possible effects and ailments, please see section 14 within “Selected Studies on Electrosensitivity (ES) and Electromagnetic Hyper-sensitivity (EHS)”.)

It is of no surprise that the Norwegian books take aim at the ICNIRP and the related WHO’s “The International EMF Project”. The books describe how the science presented to these organisations is sifted and rebuffed, but rather than disagreeing outright when harm is difficult to deny, they send it back to the authors with a note stating; “further research required”. How they deliberately ignore the precautionary and “ALARA” (As Low As Reasonably Achievable) principles in the face of science showing there are problems is also explained, and that recklessness should be worrying to all of us, not just to the people who have become affected already.

If you still don’t want to believe these books and all the science they reference, nor what happened to myself, just try searching the Internet for “dirty electricity” and “smart meters tinnitus” and you will receive plenty of results. There’ll be a few weird and wonderful websites returned among the results, but I scanned through the top 1,000 results for “dirty electricity” very recently and found only a few results that were off topic. Most of the results appeared to be reporting very similar things about the technologies that cause it and the symptoms being suffered.

What is also highly noticeable in all the searching online I’ve been doing, is the absence of any viable alternative to explain how I became so ill last year nor any science attempting to prove the human body is 100% compatible with man-made electromagnetic radiation (up to the point at which heating injuries occur). There are scientific reports that low levels of interference can actually make improvements to health in certain circumstances. Recently BBC Click on 7 October featured the Nissan Formula E racing team drivers being subjected to low levels of electromagnetic radiation in order to stimulate their brains in seemingly successful attempts to improve their reaction speeds and alleviate insomnia due to jet lag. There’s plenty of other science too on positive effects, but you can’t accept there are no effects if you want to accept that there are good effects.

While dirty electricity can be produced by many appliances, and very worryingly many are devices that are being promoted as saving the environment, what can be done with reference to electricity meters? Most importantly, they need to include electrical noise suppression to stop their power supplies creating and spreading dirty electricity around the home and the local neighbourhood. Next, why can’t they use the home’s broadband router (with VOIP telephony being rapidly rolled-out, almost every home in the UK will have one soon) to return data to the energy companies rather than putting in another wi-fi router and what is essentially a mobile phone that makes a call at least once every 30 mins 24/7? As for the in‑home display unit, why not an app for the computer or phone? I’m finding a lot of people throw these displays in a drawer thinking that this the smart meter and then claim they don’t have one! For those who have wi-fi intolerance (a co-author of the Norwegian books is one such person), then how about an Ethernet socket so that a cable can be run between the meters and to the home’s broadband router? There’s certainly no need for mobile phone communication, which is such a bugbear for many smart meters already installed and now to the mobile phone industry who are having to keep the second generation of mobile phone systems running longer than ought to have been necessary.

As for ES/EHS sufferers; what I’ve found is that they are living in an absolute nightmare situation. People are suffering, very very badly in some cases, from something that others do not want to believe exists. Appropriate help is near impossible to obtain from the authorities and the medical profession, allowing their suffering to continue and worsen with time. (I even had treatments for an unrelated problem withdrawn due to my physical condition deteriorating so much.) Then they have to suffer the taunts of delusion, of psychological causation, despite all the peer reviewed science readily available and the commonality of symptoms reported by sufferers around the world over many years, many of whom were blind to the problem before they started suffering symptoms, myself included. Even so, the result is not the compassionate care that befits anyone suffering mental illness, it is more akin to the treatment lepers received in bygone centuries; sufferers are shunned and made outcasts from ordinary society. Those like myself who find themselves sensitive to digital electricity meters, are told to live with the meter causing them harm or have the electricity turned off. Anyone wondering what the latter is like, just turn your electricity off and see how long you last before craving to turn it back on. Some ES/EHS sufferers retreat to living off-grid in the wilderness to try to escape the technologies hurting them and the people deriding them. The way sufferers are treated can result in extreme mental anguish, serious anxiety and depression can set in. Suicides are not unknown.

This is not the treatment any minority deserves in the 21st Century, certainly not one that is trying its best to stop others from following in their wake by raising the alarm about what is happening to them and the environment as a whole. Without recognition, independent regulation and engineering solutions, this problem is soon going to become a lot lot worse as we rush into electrifying almost everything in our lives. I’ve had a preview of the future and if nothing changes, it’s going to be far from an environmentally friendly and healthy place. For many it will be a very dark place indeed.

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  • Got Rid of My Smart Meter and Got My Life Back

    Approximately 8-10 years ago, my utility company began replacing our analog meters with Smart Meters.  I chose to take advantage of the opt-out option, paying the up front opt-out fee along with the recurring monthly meter reading fee.  Several months ago, the utility replaced my electric meter.  Although the new meter had a blinking digital readout, the technician assured me that it was not a Smart Meter.  Within one day after installation of the new meter, I began experiencing debilitating falling down dizzy spells every time I walked past the meter, as well as feeling those same effects inside my home.  EMF exposure symptoms do not subside immediately, even after moving away from the source.  In my case, they can linger for as long as 2-3 hours, forcing me to remain bedridden during that time.

    After several months of dizzy spells, brain fog, and inability to perform my activities of daily living, I notified the utility company about the problems I was having and requested that the meter be replaced.  After a bit of discussion, the utility company agreed to remove the meter and replace it with the analog dial unit.  I experienced  immediate relief of all symptoms after the meter was replaced.

    Prior to requesting removal of the digital meter, I spent several months trying to find some physical reason that might explain the sudden onset of my symptoms.  As a last resort, I decided to do some research on the digital meter that had been installed.  I was astonished to find (based on information from the manufacturer's website) that the utility company had in fact replaced my analog meter with a Smart Meter.  Even more astonishing was the fact that my meter was changed, even though I had paid the opt-out fees in order to keep my analog meter.

    When I contacted the utility and told them what I had learned about the meter they had installed, and requested that they return my analog meter, I was once again told the unit was not a Smart Meter.  I explained to them that turning off the transmitter in no way changed the unit into a different kind of meter.  That would be like saying if you take the wheels off a car, it's no longer a car!

  • Its not likely to be the 'smartness' of the meter in terms of the radio link part that is the problem - unless you also feel ill within a few feet of every mobile phone. The problem is more likely to be either ultrasound (so high frequency vibrations) from the electronic power supply within the meter, or conducted emissions in the form of high frequency (compared to mains frequencies  at least, equally quite low compared to radio) currents being impressed on the house wiring.

    I'm very pleased to read that you have managed to get things changed however, and that regardless of cause you are starting to feel better.

    Mike

  •  Even more astonishing was the fact that my meter was changed

    It's quite normal for a supplier to replace meters periodically - mechanical ones especially are subject to wear and won't maintain accuracy indefinitely. Manufacturers only guarantee accuracy for a certain period and as the suppliers are legally obliged to ensure metering is accurate (to within a certain tolerances) regular meter replacement (once a decade-ish?) has been the norm for as long as I can remember. Of course for most of history it was replacing an old "analogue" meter with a new "analogue" meter, so no-one was really bothered.

    I suspect the big problem for suppliers now is that (as far as I've been able to find out) no-one's manufacturing new spinning disc type meters any more. Old meters can be refurbished and re-calibrated, but that still can only delay the inevitable. There are non-smart meters of course, but they're still digital/electronic and will likely have many of the same problems as their smart cousins.

       - Andy.

  • Cheryl was paying a substantial surcharge for having her meter manually read instead of having the communications transmitter working. (She lives in California where rules are very different to the UK, indeed different in different areas of CA and other states have their own rules.) This means that the symptoms she was suffering from were indeed likely to have been due to emissions from the switched-mode power supply in her previous smart-but-dumb meter, but not necessarily from the household wiring as the effects were felt only in close proximity to the meter rather than around the house as it was in my case.

    The effects she suffered could point more towards ultrasound, as the symptoms Cheryl reported can be symptoms of ultrasound as well as being associated with EHS. (Details of ultrasound symptoms can be seen in my recent question about ultrasound from broadband routers:Why are some broadband routers emitting ultrasound? Cheryl can have problems near routers, but blames the wi-fi emissions.) Obviously, power supply switching frequency EMFs being emitted direct from the smart-but-dumb meter can't be ruled out as causing or aiding and abetting the symptoms.

    Cheryl's symptoms reminds me that while I had either of the Kaifa MA120 meters installed, as smart-but-dumb meters for all but 2 days, I experienced a few near blackouts/dizzines due to blood pressure anomalies after being near these meters for several minutes rather than just passing by in the hallway. This symptom was the only one fully diagnosed by medical staff. It did not arise with any of the other meters fitted and I have had no such problems since having the analogue meter installed. The medic told me to sit and stand like a very elderly man in future and that I would just have to get used to the screaching tinnitus and all the other symtoms! A more practical and very successful solution for the near blackouts was to simply not go into the meter cupboard nor stand by it for any length of time.

    Here's a news report about another person affected badly by having a smart meter fitted in California, who had a rather different outcome compared to Cheryl:

    "It's life or death for me." - Woman voices concerns about 'smart meters': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LczhIkeRbmY

    Needless to say, the lady involved lost the court case in her new home in Pennsylvania and opted to have her electricity cut off rather than risk a repeat of her ordeal in CA, so bad were the symptoms she experienced. I understand that she now generates her own electricity including the use of solar panels, with various pieces of expensive equipment to minimise the dirty electricity that solar panels create through their use of inverters - another ultrasonic switching technology. How much simpler and cheaper would an analogue meter have been as the solution, or even cheaper; making smart meter fitted with power supplies that don't create sound and EMFs at ultrasonic frequencies? (Maintaining the option to work in smart-but-dumb mode for those who experience reactions from microwave frequencies.)

    Why do the minority of people this problem are so badly effected get treated so badly, particularly when simple engineering solutions are available? Judging from various health news stories and statistics I'm finding, the minority may be far from tiny. Dr Magda Havas, a leading EHS expert, believes as many as 35% of people are experiencing ES/EHS related health problems, most without they or their GPs realising it.

    Andrew

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  • Cheryl was paying a substantial surcharge for having her meter manually read instead of having the communications transmitter working. (She lives in California where rules are very different to the UK, indeed different in different areas of CA and other states have their own rules.) This means that the symptoms she was suffering from were indeed likely to have been due to emissions from the switched-mode power supply in her previous smart-but-dumb meter, but not necessarily from the household wiring as the effects were felt only in close proximity to the meter rather than around the house as it was in my case.

    The effects she suffered could point more towards ultrasound, as the symptoms Cheryl reported can be symptoms of ultrasound as well as being associated with EHS. (Details of ultrasound symptoms can be seen in my recent question about ultrasound from broadband routers:Why are some broadband routers emitting ultrasound? Cheryl can have problems near routers, but blames the wi-fi emissions.) Obviously, power supply switching frequency EMFs being emitted direct from the smart-but-dumb meter can't be ruled out as causing or aiding and abetting the symptoms.

    Cheryl's symptoms reminds me that while I had either of the Kaifa MA120 meters installed, as smart-but-dumb meters for all but 2 days, I experienced a few near blackouts/dizzines due to blood pressure anomalies after being near these meters for several minutes rather than just passing by in the hallway. This symptom was the only one fully diagnosed by medical staff. It did not arise with any of the other meters fitted and I have had no such problems since having the analogue meter installed. The medic told me to sit and stand like a very elderly man in future and that I would just have to get used to the screaching tinnitus and all the other symtoms! A more practical and very successful solution for the near blackouts was to simply not go into the meter cupboard nor stand by it for any length of time.

    Here's a news report about another person affected badly by having a smart meter fitted in California, who had a rather different outcome compared to Cheryl:

    "It's life or death for me." - Woman voices concerns about 'smart meters': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LczhIkeRbmY

    Needless to say, the lady involved lost the court case in her new home in Pennsylvania and opted to have her electricity cut off rather than risk a repeat of her ordeal in CA, so bad were the symptoms she experienced. I understand that she now generates her own electricity including the use of solar panels, with various pieces of expensive equipment to minimise the dirty electricity that solar panels create through their use of inverters - another ultrasonic switching technology. How much simpler and cheaper would an analogue meter have been as the solution, or even cheaper; making smart meter fitted with power supplies that don't create sound and EMFs at ultrasonic frequencies? (Maintaining the option to work in smart-but-dumb mode for those who experience reactions from microwave frequencies.)

    Why do the minority of people this problem are so badly effected get treated so badly, particularly when simple engineering solutions are available? Judging from various health news stories and statistics I'm finding, the minority may be far from tiny. Dr Magda Havas, a leading EHS expert, believes as many as 35% of people are experiencing ES/EHS related health problems, most without they or their GPs realising it.

    Andrew

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  • There are at least two parts of the problem !

    One is that those not affected are completely unaffected, whereas most conditions one can understand or be able to  empathize, having experienced something similar or being able to imagine it. This sort of thing is something else. Actually there are some mental conditions that those who do not have them struggle to understand, and more generally conditions  that 'make no sense' tend to get sidelined.

    Secondly, perhaps in part due to poor reporting technique, the cause is not well understood, and  there is no standard to test against for exposure mitigation to be 'good enough' for sufferers of either EHS or ultrasound levels.

    It may amuse you to know that ultrasonic bat detection equipment can sometimes be used to identify concealed switching power supplies, and actually bat's echolocation  calls are very loud - well over the sound pressure level of 100dBw.

     Mike.

  • It's a big problem getting people to understand how a little bit of electronics can cause big health effects to a little section of society. It's complicated by the authorities telling people that ES/EHS doesn't exist and EMFs aren't harmful unless they are so strong they burn you. I've been told by a GP he was taught at medical school that people with ES/EHS do not exist. What chance do people without technical knowledge have of getting people to understand their plight even if they realise a piece of electronics is responsible for their symptoms? My battle was difficult enough. Cheryl has thankfully been successful after discussions with her electricity supplier about her rapid health reactions. Others are not so lucky that their reactions are so rapid, making it difficulty to pinpoint the source of their symptoms. I believe the 3 other members of EngX who came forward in this discussion or my previous one, are still likely to have a meter causing them and/or their spouse health problems within their own home. (Any updates?)

    Despite my change back to an analogue meter, I have been left so sensitive, I have been in a couple of houses with one of the two types of smart electricity meters that were fitted in my home and told the owners they had one of these meters installed before they even knew themselves. One even told me they didn't have a smart electricity meter until we checked to see if my prediction was correct. This was simply by how my head felt after being in their living rooms for around 45 minutes, completely without sight of where their meters were installed nor any clues beforehand.

    I simply can't avoid these meters nor routers when I visit friends and family. I'm concerned about 2 relatives who have been diagnosed with problems that may be associated with their meters or broadband routers. For several years, one had the same broadband supplier as supplied the router that I found emitting ultrasound. The other relative suffers a debilitating condition within the "Smart Meter Symptoms" chart in the opening post of this discussion, which has deemed MUS (medically unexplained symptom) by their GP and specialist. I haven't got on too well when I stayed in their home overnight in the past.

    In answer to Andy's response earlier today, we need modern meters designing and manufacturing so that they do not emit unnecessary harmful EMFs. The low frequency EMFs provide no purpose except to allow the manufacturers to make meters a tiny bit cheaper, a pittance compared to the health care costs of those of us who these cheap meters affect as I've said before. I won't suggest going back to manufacturing analogue meters, but reconditioned ones are currently the only source of safe meters for people like myself, Cheryl and the others affected by dumb or plain digital meters. For the record; analogue meters could last over 20 years, which is twice as long as the decade-ish Andy states, which I have also heard from other sources about smart meter longevity. The analogue meter taken out of my house in 2022 was fitted in 2001 and was still within its certification period. Health issues aside, I find it alarming that not only has the cost of replacing meters more than doubled as a result, there is also a conflict with use of resources over something that is claimed to be environmental friendly.

    It's now just over 4 years since my own problems began. The amount of disbelief or "heads in sand" over what and how I suffered is unbelievable. I've contacted all sorts of people, from politicians to top professors in research. Very few respond and those that do, tend to stop contact all too soon even if they show interest in what happened to me, as this is such a taboo subject. When I started my original discussion on EngX, I had no idea that EHS was the root cause of my problems. I don't have the choice to run away or stick my head in the sand and pretend it isn't happening to me. I wish I could wake up in the morning without any tinnitus, after a good night's sleep and feeling like I had enough energy to do all the things I want to do during the day. With hindsight I now realise I had health problems in the past that were put down as MUS that are possibly early signs of EHS.

    I want to find out why I am so sensitive so that I can help stop others becoming similarly affected, but I can't do that if no one will talk to me who can probe why low frequencies of EMFs can play havoc with my health. This institution is responsible for the electrical safety regulations in the UK, yet no one in a position of responsibility wants to talk to me, so they can understand what happened to me and help prevent others becoming afflicted. People (and animals, there is strong evidence of birds, bees and others creatures, probably bats too, are being affected by EMFs) have no choice but to be exposed to utility equipment and it is not good enough for utilities to claim their equipment is safe simply because they don't understand the problem exists, despite all the people that have complained before and since myself.

    Andrew

  • One is that those not affected are completely unaffected

    Yes, apparently all or nothing.

    36,000 words - is a solution any nearer?

    I'd be happy if the suppliers just registered my smart meter against the correct MPAN.

  • I fear the failure to get the MPAN paper trail right ,and the failure to bother to suppress sources of ultrasound in SMPSUs , and weak filtering on the incoming mains to the power supply part of the meters, are all symptoms of a more general problem.

    The people in responsible positions seem to not understand what they are actually responsible for, and those 'on the front-line' as it were,  who just install meters or administer the system have very little power to go off script or do anything remotely none-standard. 

    The result in one domain is design-to-cost electronics installed by the cheapest subcontractor, that if it saved tuppence would be installed with the screws hammered in, and in the other a team of call handlers who are trained to say 'have a nice day' and know all the standard phrases, but don't really know how to handle situations  where things go wrong.

    Oh, what have we done ?

    Mike

  • It’s not quite so simple as 'not affected are completely unaffected' when it comes to suffering the effects of EHS. There can be a build-up of small signs of sensitivity, but these can be so subtle they won’t be seen as anything to do with electro-sensitivity. People can suffer symptoms without realising the cause could be (other reasons for these also possible) such as;

    • insomnia,
    • stuffed up sinuses,
    • tiredness,
    • dry eyes,
    • headaches,
    • mild dizziness/vertigo,
    • pins and needles/tingling,
    • muscle twitches and
    • low-level tinnitus.

    Without any obvious causation, doctors will often pass these symptoms off as medically unrecognised symptoms (MUS), leaving sufferers to hope that one day these symptoms will simply go away or get so conditioned to suffering them that they normalise them. Unfortunately, when something comes along and greatly increases the sufferer's exposure to EMFs, they may reach their threshold of coping and their health then falls off a ‘cliff edge’. (See the diagram produced by Professor Hecht in my opening post.) This can happen well below the current exposure limits set by the ICNIRP, hence why a lot of scientists working in this area are calling for the ICNIRP to be reformed or entirely replaced. Once over the threshold of coping, the result can be one or more life afflicting symptoms that include (there's plenty more);

    • Cardiac dysrhythmia/arrhythmia,
    • musculoskeletal pains,
    • chronic fatigue,
    • memory problems,
    • brain fog,
    • migraines,
    • intense tinnitus (usually high-pitched monotone non-pulsatile),
    • head pressure,
    • ear pressure,
    • visual disturbances,
    • stabbing pains,
    • dizziness/vertigo,
    • nausea,
    • rashes,
    • tremors,
    • blood pressure anomalies,
    • exacerbate behavioural problems such as ADHD and OCD,
    • stress,
    • anxiety and
    • depression.

    These can show relatively quickly, but rarely react as fast as the flick of an on/off switch, particularly for EMF exposure rather than ultrasound exposure. I was lucky in some ways that I had one quick blind testable symptom from the above list which led to realising there was interference between the smart electricity meters and my surround sound system, causing it to emit ultrasound or more likely EMFs at ultrasonic frequencies. It doesn't happen now with the analogue meter that turned out to be a solution for my complete inability to live safely in my own home, hence I'm unable to recreate the conditions that created the ear pressure to find out exactly what was happening. The ear pressure and it's almost instant change when I went in and out of the house or turned off the electricity in the house, certainly helped determine the wretched tinnitus was due to the new electricity meter.

    Then there are longer term health conditions that scientists looking at the effects of non-ionising radiation are concerned about, a few of which are;

    • Dementia/Alzheimer’s,
    • ALS (a form of MND),
    • Parkinson’s,
    • cardiovascular diseases,
    • developmental and reproductive effects and
    • childhood leukaemia.

    There are plenty more long term health effects that scientists researching the effects of EF/EMFs are worried about. (Some now arguing that EMFs should be uprated from Class 2B 'possible' to Class 1 'definite' carcinogen due to the many cancers that have been linked to EMFs, not just childhood leukaemia.) The above list contains those long term effects mentioned in the ICNIRP's low frequency guidelines that are either denied or stated to be are inconclusive or inconsistent. (See: https://www.icnirp.org/en/frequencies/low-frequency/index.html) I've seen enough scientific evidence to say that they at the very least the ICNIRP ought to apply the Precautionary Principle and that equipment exposing us to EFs/EMFs need to conform to the ALARA Principle - As Low As Reasonably Achievable. Unfortunately, the ICNIRP and other organisations charged with protecting us from harm due to low-level EFs, EMFs and ultrasound tell our governments that there's nothing to worry about, we can carry on with our lives as if no harm is being caused and deem those of us making a fuss out of our symptoms to be simple deluded individuals with nothing better to do than seek to disrupt technological advances. That couldn't be further from the truth, we are better described as 'canaries down the mine' trying to stop a health and environmental catastrophe taking place. A recent study of just over 1000 people in each of Canada, Australia and the USA, representing the national cross-section in terms of age, gender and region, indicates that my often mentioned estimate of 5% of the population will become affected by EHS needs uprating to 10% of the population are already affected by EHS, and it may be as high as 14%. (As mentioned previously, Dr Magda Havas believes the estimate is for 35% of the population with ES/EHS related symptoms.) I'm still looking at this new study and will post details within another post I drafted before my latest holiday, which will list more scientific studies to add to those I listed in my post of 2 Sept 2025 (Post: RE: Reasons why I suffered tinnitus, insomnia, chronic fatigue, and other health problems after having digital electricity meters installed )

    The science doesn't end with humans either as mentioned in a previous post, it applies to most other living creatures. "Bees, birds and Mankind - Destroying Nature by 'Electrosmog'" (https://www.naturalscience.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/kompetenzinitiative-ev_study_bees-birds-and-mankind_04-08_english.pdf) published in 2007 by Professor Hecht and several other scientists gives a good insight into the problem. The science has moved on since with a greater understanding of the harm and how it happens, eg through the Radical Pair Mechanism (RPM) with its effects on magnetoreception resulting in the release of free-radical Reaction Oxygen Species (ROS) that cause oxidative stress and thus a whole host of medical problems. (See the first diagram in my opening post and also item 87 by Henshaw & Philips; "A mechanistic understanding of human magnetoreception validates the phenomenon of electromagnetic hypersensitivity (EHS)", in my list of scientific publications in my post of 2 Sept 2025 mentioned in the above paragraph.)

    There are scientists who are beginning to get very concerned that the Earth's natural EMFs are being affected by man-made EMFs and metallic pollution in the upper atmosphere. Affect the electrical properties of the atmosphere and that will affect the climate. So, in our rush to electrify our lives, we may be making 'Climate Change' even worse. More to come on that in my future aforementioned post.

    Some people argue back that our bodies cope with natural radiation that far exceeds man-made radiation. There're two big problems with that:

    1. Our bodies and those of other living creatures have evolved over billions of years from the first tiny living organisms to not only cope with natural electromagnetic radiation, but also to make use of it. Our eyesight is the most obvious, but magnetoreception as mentioned above plays a role in our health. Our bodies have not developed to in order to cope with unnatural pulsed/spiky polarised radiation at unnatural frequencies, leading to oxidative stress as our bodies struggle to cope with increases in exposure at rates far in excess of our evolutionary processes. Add in other unnatural exposures such as pesticides and UPFs, and the body has a nightmare coping. (People with EHS are often chemically sensitive as well.)

    2. This diagram, which dates back to 2010, since when magnitudes of man-made radiation have only increased:
      Electrosmog in 2010 according to Bandara and Carpenter
      From Bandara P, Carpenter DO. "Planetary electromagnetic pollution: it is time to assess its impact." Lancet Planet Health. 2018 Dec;2(12):e512-e514. doi: 10.1016/S2542-5196(18)30221-3. PMID: 30526934.

      The worst case in the diagram, mobile phone radiation, is approximately 1 billion billion times stronger (1018). Even if the figure is 99.99% over-estimated, that's still 10 million billion times stronger the background level at that frequency. For the low frequency range, the man-made radiation is only one million times stronger, so nothing to worry about there then, maybe, probably.

    I could continue on and on, there's so much to reveal on this subject, but I've already clocked up over another 1000 words, some of which are repeating content in my contributions to the previous 36000 words in this discussion. I've another post drafted that will be listing more scientific documents of interest, which I hope to post soon. So, let's take a look at the reasons why 4 years have now gone by with seemingly no progress on this matter, which as someone who found out the hard way that EHS exists and still affects his everyday life, I find extremely frustrating and alarming, particularly as once you have discovered the harm being caused, you see the huge impact this is having on many people, the health service, the economy and the very thing green technology is supposed to be helping to protect; the environment.

    It isn't entirely helpful when people rubbish the claims of those of us who have been affected by electrical equipment without themselves actually experiencing that equipment for themselves, nor taking any notice of the scientific publications that vindicate why some people are suffering and complaining. Those who don't experience health effects when exposed to this equipment join the vast majority of people who have higher thresholds than those of us who do suffer and/or the electrical environment in there home is not ripe for the effects to take hold. Congratulations to those in the majority, but please spare a thought for minority who are less fortunate and have their lives turned upside down. There are people who smoke all their life and never get lung cancer or any of the other diseases related to smoking, but does this mean smoking can be deemed healthy? (Results of smoking are therefore inconsistent...) I hope most people reading this will think smoking is not safe. Change the question from "smoking" to "EMFs" and most people will answer conversely. Did you know that doctors in the 1950s were advising patients with stress related conditions to smoke? Unthinkable now. What will people think in 70 years time when they look back on our current attitude towards EHS?

    It isn't entirely helpful when I keep being told there is no problem with electricity meters when each time my meter was changed my symptoms would change, culminating with the analogue meter being installed that made a massive relief to my symptoms and allowed me to live in my own home again. Then there are others who have made substantial recoveries after having their homes refitted with analogue meters, like Cheryl (see her 27 Feb 2026 post:  RE: Reasons why I suffered tinnitus, insomnia, chronic fatigue, and other health problems after having digital electricity meters installed), Joseph Cascina (see my 4 Jan 2024 post:RE: Reasons why I suffered tinnitus, insomnia, chronic fatigue, and other health problems after having digital electricity meters installed) and a couple in Stroud (see third paragraph in this contribution to the parliamentary debate on EHS in 2019: https://hansard.parliament.uk//commons/2019-06-25/debates/7D18471E-627A-41C4-B338-11F278CEA9B7/ElectromagneticFieldsHealthEffects#contribution-DEE03C9B-C819-438D-BF2D-EA9C01F7FB98 ). Sadly I have to state that despite this and the other parliamentary evidence, my current MP after I told him about my ordeal and how it was caused, still wants to vote for smart meters to be mandatory across the UK. Not exactly helpful nor respectful of a chartered electrical engineer who has lived through an awful experience and spent over 2 years at time finding out the causes. My recovery and Cheryl's will be cold comfort to those like Mark and his wife, Rudy's wife and Dan, whom to my current knowledge are struggling to have the simple resolution applied to their homes and instead are being left to suffer awful symptoms by their electricity suppliers. At least the two EngX discussions have provided them and no doubt others too, with information about how they are suffering and what needs to be done. Anybody reading this and have the same issues, keep calm, but complain and complain as what's best:

    1. Constant medical appointments, futile CBT, drugs that make people so dopey they can cope with medical conditions that cannot be cured by conventional medicine.

    2. Abandoning your home hopefully for another in which the conditions for suffering EHS are not prevalent.

    3. Spending lots of money on all sorts of equipment that will stop (hopefully - buyers beware) harmful EMFs being broadcast all around your home on the household cabling.

    4. A reconditioned analogue meter that costs less than the cost of a single GP appointment on the NHS?

    There's no comparison to option 4, yet the energy companies continue to insist that no one can object to having meters in their home on the grounds of health effects despite all the evidence available that these meters are not being made in accordance to existing domestic electrical appliance standards. It's not in their interests in terms of cost and don't expect them to take notice that you have become ill thanks to their equipment. Mike has been examining the L&G E470 meter he's acquired and there's a strong hint in his most recent reply that it's been made 'on the cheap'. Some low cost good engineering practices in the design and manufacture of these meters could have stopped all the suffering from the dirty electricity these meters and many others produce. Such a simple 'cheap as chips' solution and one that wouldn't have happened had electricity meters been deemed domestic electrical appliances in the first place. No one has ever explained to me how I was able to tune in to the audible noise the SMPS was making in the Kaifa MA120 meter at many carrier frequencies on the both AM bands of my radio, even near sockets in my bedroom, let alone in the meter cupboard where I took the videos shown in this post: https://engx.theiet.org/f/discussions/28276/severe-tinnitus-following-the-installation-of-new-electricity-meters/122707 Then there's the interference with other electrical equipment in the house as I experienced with my surround sound system creating the easily 'blind testable' ear pressure. Other people have reported other electrical devices being interfered with by electricity meters and dirty electricity can shorten the lifetime of electronic equipment connected to the household supply. How can making things that shorten the lifetime of electrical equipment be considered green? The fact that the design life of modern meters is less than half that of old analogue meters is bad enough and it really should not be happening.

    It isn't entirely helpful that this Institution told the government that 100% of the evidence on health effects presented to the parliamentary committee responsible for the roll-out of smart meters, some 74% of the total amount of the evidence contributed, was nothing to worry about prior to the roll-out starting in the UK in earnest. (See my 21 Jun 2025 post here for details:  RE: Reasons why I suffered tinnitus, insomnia, chronic fatigue, and other health problems after having digital electricity meters installed) It isn't helpful either when I ask for this advice to be reviewed having suffered just as some people had forewarned and yet no one will even speak to me. The last person within the Institution who corresponded with me for a short time time told me that the best way forward was to start this new discussion so that my evidence of what is wrong could be seen and discussed by my peers. After the acrimonious end to the original discussion, I wasn't too sure if it was the right thing to do, but so far so good in comparison. I hope there's a conciliatory tone rather than an opposite undertone in Chris's first post in this discussion - Chris, I hope that we can have an open and honest debate about the science and evidence without a similar curtailment to this discussion.

    It would be helpful to know if people in the IET leadership are reading this, one of the most viewed discussion threads in the EngX forum. If they are, are they taking any notice of the evidence I'm presenting? This is a huge matter of concern over electrical health and safety for which the IET are the leading organisation in the UK and who will influence many other national authorities elsewhere. What happens when news reaches the public that the alarm bell was rung many years ago and the Institution simply maintained that health hazards from low-level EMFs were nothing to worry about? The jungle drums that are booming in the 'EHS secret garden' are telling me the time is getting close to the walls coming down under the ever increasing weight of scientific evidence. Reclassifying EMFs as a Class 1 carcinogen will raise the alarm bell with the public. The sooner the better as the longer the complacent attitude towards the harm being caused continues, the more difficult and costlier it will be to put right, and more people will become affected with the result that they become more sensitive and even stricter limits will be required for them.

    It isn't entirely helpful that I'm told no one is interested in EHS, nor how I suffered and what I've discovered as a consequence. My original EngX discussion is soon to surpass 100,000 views and the figure for this discussion has grown by more than six fold since May last year. Not big in social media terms, members subscribers are very few, but these discussions will be mainly be viewed by people who are interested, possibly suffering themselves or know others who are suffering, looking for reasons and solutions for how electricity meters and other electrical devices can badly effect health. I met a lady on holiday last year who blamed her tinnitus on LED lightbulbs. I'd only mentioned I had tinnitus and was having difficulty sleeping in the hotel, I'd said nothing about my ordeal with electricity meters. She gets the same ridicule as I do, even telling me that she struggles to get her partner to believe her. Getting people to understand something they can't see, touch, taste, smell or hear is extremely difficult, but if someone says they can hear a device, it is eminently blind testable and should not be the subject of ridicule by anyone. A lady who suffered tinnitus after a bad experience at the dentist with an ultrasonic descaler has recently thanked me for publicising the fact that a proportion of the population can hear a high-pitched tone from these devices due to the ultrasound hearing phenomenon. When I told my dentist I could hear a tone, he looked extremely puzzled, but he had to believe me when his dental assistant told us that she too heard a tone whenever she had her teeth ultrasonically descaled. Just how much testing was done on these things before they became popular dental tools? Should garden pest repellers be allowed that can use the same sort of frequencies at a loud volume. I think not and nor should broadband routers be emitting ultrasound because they too are being made 'on the cheap'.

    It isn't entirely helpful when I write to organisations researching or supporting people with the medical conditions I suffered and more often than not never receive a reply. Of the few replies I've had, most have not been followed-up as had been promised. EHS is certainly a taboo subject and hardly accepted by the medical profession. It certainly doesn't help if as one GP told me, at medical school they were trained to believe that EHS does not exist, completely in contradiction to those low frequency guidelines by the ICNIRP (who don't have any fans within the EHS community). If the human body is immune to interference, that would be a scientific miracle and biological shielding would be exploited in technology that requires strict standards of EMC (electromagnetic compatibility). This lack of interest does not make any sense when we have a growing and concerning proportion of the population suffering the symptoms I've listed at the top of this post and many others that have been linked to EHS. I've searched for data showing the growth of such symptoms and what I've found so far (it's not been easy to find genuine figures), are increases in the mid 2010s that tally with the growth of various forms of 'green technology', particularly of course the roll-out of smart meters, as well as LED lightbulbs and solar panel installations with their extremely noisy inverters. It would be very very interesting if the data could be analysed deeper. Delving into the statistics could lead to finding answers that could revolutionise health care, not only from electrical causation. Instead, symptoms are often declared MUS and causations are countered by other claims of causation.

    I'm not entirely sure how helpful my post nominals are: "BEng (Hons) MSc (d) CEng MIET". I think sometimes I think putting "25m breaststroke" instead would achieve greater credence with those I reach out to for help, or in some cases, try to help. At least non-technical people are more likely to understand swimming qualifications rather than "CEng MIET". (I can swim much better than 25m by the way, but those in the UK over a certain age will understand my choice.) There's been chartered engineers complaining in the E&T Magazine and elsewhere that "CEng" doesn't receive the recognition that this status deserves. I once worked with someone who made it quite clear in the IT department that we worked in that I had no business working in IT. Horrific ignorance and she even tried to find out how much I was being paid, as she believed her diploma making her an IT professional required much greater recompense than someone who as far as she was concerned, was only qualified to put plugs on things. Sadly, according to what she told everybody about her pay when vocalising her complaints about my presence, she was being actually being paid more than myself, but I opted not to go round telling people how much I was being paid, it was more professional and in any case, it would have been cause for embarrassment. No matter, I went on to pioneer a technological achievement for the department that many of her similarly qualified colleagues told me was impossible and ahead of most other departments within the UK's Civil Service. I think I more than earned my money in the short time I worked there.

    Throughout these discussions and when discussing the problems with others, I have tried to be diligent and apply professionalism to the subject, which I still find fascinating despite being one of the minority who can suffer horrendously. I have found testimonies from many hundreds of other people affected by having new electricity meters installed in their homes, evidence of others suffering from other electrical devices, scientific evidence of harm being caused by frequencies of non-ionising radiation across the whole spectrum. I've ignored conspiracy theories like the plague and I wouldn't support requests for people to have their modern meters changed for no reason other than they prefer to have an analogue meter. At the moment though, analogue meters are the best meters for those who continue to suffer health issues from digital meters due to dirty electricity. (Sufferers of microwave frequencies can currently request the communications hub to be turned off or removed, but you may face opposition at first.) The real solution is to stop making electricity meters on the cheap. It is such an expensive mistake, not only for those affected but also to the health service and the economy as a whole for everybody. (See my 21 Jun 2025 post:  RE: Reasons why I suffered tinnitus, insomnia, chronic fatigue, and other health problems after having digital electricity meters installed ) 

    Just in case there are any IET branches who are interested, I have a ready made tried and tested presentation about my ordeal. The story of how I was treated goes well beyond what's contained in the approximate 75,000 words contained in my two discussions. The organiser of the science and technology group meeting I gave the first presentation to gave me this feedback:

    "Thanks for today's talk Andrew. It generated a great deal of interest within the group and we will certainly discuss some aspects of it in our next meeting. We were impressed with your documentation and analysis, and sympathise with your problems.. We hope that in the future things continue to improve. "

    The meeting extended into the car park for Q&A for some time afterwards. The audience made their interest quite clear at the end of the presentation too.

    While the IET may not be interested in what I write here, I know that there are people outside of the IET who are suffering and are very much interested:

    "Some very interesting information and discussion here and refreshing to see interest and support from other engineers and technicians about smart meter health effects - not disbelief."

    "I've had a read through the recent discussion on the IET forum. It's good that, so far as I can see, the comments are sensible and sympathetic."

    My offer also extends to medical professionals and political groups, who need to hear about my ordeal just as much as engineers and technologists. In fact it would be good to have representatives from all these groups at the same meeting. We all need to talk to each other if this massive and potentially catastrophic problem is ever going to be properly resolved.

    I think another 4300 words is enough for now, particularly if no one in the IET is one bit interested in what this chartered engineer of almost 28 years has to say and been through. Try listening to a 14 kHz tone using a free tone generator app or website at a volume you wouldn't want to listen to for longer than 1 second. You'd then be interested in every word I and other sufferers have reported if you were to suffer that buzzing around your head 24/7 as a consequence of a piece of utility equipment in your home that you can't turn off nor replace. Tinnitus was only the first of the debilitating problems I suffered.

    Andrew

  • It would be helpful to know if people in the IET leadership are reading this,

    Probably not (and I write that as probably one of the longest serving posters on these forums across their various incarnations). And, to be honest, there's no reason why they should: this forum has the technical authority of a coffee room or pub chat. 

    Getting it published as an IET journal article might attract attention (although I wouldn't hold your breath), but probably the only way to get "the IET" to take an interest would be to approach a relevant IET technical committee to get them interested in it.

  • Hi Andy,

    My experience and concerns have been sent twice to the E&T Magazine editor with nil response both times. I had a promise of an article in another journal after approaching the most appropriate committee with details of my ordeal and findings at the time, but that fell through and they made the second approach to E&T, not me. I was then told EngX was the best place to continue publishing my concerns, so there's no excuse why they are not taking any notice.

    If those in the IET leadership team don't bother to use EngX, then no wonder there is only a small fraction of the IET membership signed up to use the Forum and even fewer like yourself who regularly respond to posts. I'd like to do more, but I'm a bit busy with this all this at the moment. Although my posts here are somewhat intermittent, not a day goes by without thinking about what happened to me, what can I do to stop it happening again to others not just myself, can I contact someone who can do something to change things so people affected by EHS aren't ridiculed and treated like lepers as I mentioned in my opening post etc etc.

    I contacted the person in the IET who told me to start this EngX discussion, after there was no response to my post about the 'there's nothing to worry about here' type response given by the Institution's representative and the representative from Public Health England (PHE) to the parliamentary committee for Energy and Climate Change when questioned about possible health effects of smart meters. Unfortunately, the person didn't want to resume corresponding with me and the person who told me that on her behalf, told me he would find someone else, but it might take up to 2 months and even then he couldn't promise that he would be successful. That was many months ago now, with nil response, an all too common result with this hot potato of a subject.

    That parliamentary advice will come back to haunt this Institution if they don't revisit the evidence in light of what has happened to me and many others before the balloon goes up on what will be a scandal like no other. It was a major opportunity missed to stop the harm being caused in the UK based on what had already happened to people in the USA and Australia. (See chart in the opening post, produced from surveys carried out in Australia and the USA before 2013.) Parliament didn't make smart meters mandatory in fear of health effects happening and cost of the compensation claims that could ensue. Those claims may still come, as some energy companies are treating the govenment's edicts on smart meters as if they are mandatory and refuse to change meters back even when presented with medical requests to support the change back "in the interests of the consumer", as Ofgem term it.

    If 10% of the population are suffering from EHS, this isn't such a small minority that can be scattered into what's left of the wilderness in the UK and the compensation for almost 7 million people would be massive. Such money will be needed to retrofit the badly made electricity meters and everything else that has been made without taking into account the mass of scientific evidence on the issue. Currently, few sufferers actually appear to realise what is happening to them, but countries cannot afford to have so many people being very ill for no reason other than engineers got the wrong message about EHS. Other countries who have recognised the danger and imposed lower limits for exposure to EFs and EMFs. Sweden has recognised EHS as a functional disability for many years, yet it still forces badly made harmful smart meters into the homes of sensitive people quite bizarrely. However, here's a quote from a UK government document produced by the Health Protection Agency (HPA), before it was assimulated into PHE and then merged into the UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA):

    Ref: HPA Definition Epidemiology and Management of electrical sensitivity (assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/.../HpaRpd010.pdf)

    "Electrical sensitivity symptoms can be broadly grouped into facial skin symptoms attributed to exposure of visual display units (VDUs) and more general, non-specific symptoms across a range of body systems. Neurological symptoms such as headache and fatigue predominate in this latter group. There may be progression from skin-only symptoms to more generalised symptoms, although this may be relevant only to Sweden."

    What is so different about electrical equipment like VDUs in Sweden? Good riddance to CRTs if those are what caused some people to suffer skin rashes and other problems, but were such VDUs any different in Sweden compared to anywhere else? Note it says "Sweden" not "Swedish", so Sweden might not be such a safe place to visit if their equipment creates more health issues than anywhere else. (My wife is hoping we'll go for a holiday there soon.)

    It's an interesting document, but I don't know whether to laugh or cry at the contents. I mean, can CBT stop skin rashes happening?! It seems obsessed with Sweden and VDUs and that may be because Sweden took the complaints from sufferers from VDUs users a bit more seriously than elsewhere. Rashes on people's skin are visible and cannot be ignored like tinnitus which is hidden and can't be heard by others. At least the document concluded that CBT was of limited success. Here's the list of subjective efficiency ratings for the mitigation of symptoms associated with EMFs where the scale is 1 for ineffective and 6 for very useful:

    1. Disconnecting electricity - 4.5
    2. Removing indoor source - 4.3
    3. Avoiding exposure - 4.2
    4. Reconstruction - 3.4  [Whatever that means, it is not explained.]
    5. Information - 3.2
    6. Meditation/body work - 3.2
    7. Drugs - 3.2
    8. Shielding devices- 3.2
    9. Alternative medicine - 3.1
    10. Shielding the dwelling - 3.0
    11. Changing lifestyle - 2.3
    12. Law complaint - 1.1

    A few interesting conclusions, but the top 3 are practised by me and people I know who suffer from EHS and if only smart meters could be removed. (Note indoor or outside on the house wall makes little if any difference, the harmful EMFs emitted due to the dirty electricity they produce come from the household cabling becoming an effective transmission aerial for those frequencies.) "Information" is good, hope my two discussions are helpful on that account. Strange that shielding features quite low down on the list, it is something that people with EHS also do find useful. "Changing lifestyle" is interesting at almost the bottom of the list and could mean all sorts of things. Some people with EHS move out into the wilderness, but it's not what most of us want to do. An off-grid lifestyle is not something I desire, no matter how idyllic some of the locations and lifestyles are of people featured in television programmes like "Ben Fogle: New Lives in the Wild". Even then, most of the people featured have some sort of electrical power for their alternative lifestyles, so important is electricity in our modern lives - so why was I offered several times to have the electricity cut off as a solution if I couldn't stand the supplier's choice of meter? Should anyone have to change their lifestyle for the sake of having a meter refitted costing less than £20?

    Even if there's plenty of room for improvement and another 20 years of scientific knowledge to add to the document, the HPA knew quite a bit of information in 2005, pre-smart meters, about ES/EHS, so why did the UKHSA treat me like an idiot for suffering from something they claimed couldn't be happening? This problem isn't going to go away by shunting my protestations into something akin to a coffee room or pub, but I know people are viewing this outside of the IET who are finding the information far more helpful than those approached in organisations who ought to be helping them. Being told the problem doesn't exist so they can't be suffering from it and seek help from doctors will know best how to treat them, when their doctors have already said they can't offer any effective treatment, is an horrendous situation to be in.

    My presentation is offered not as some sort of ego trip, I make no claims of being a great orator nor do I want fame (or more likely infamy) over my troubles. I just want to get the information I've found shared with more IET members and also with members of the medical profession and those who make policy decisions in order to stop pollution from fossil fuels being replaced with another form of harmful pollution, a more insidious one that is difficult for the average person to detect and understand. This pollution is avoidable by well engineered equipment, not by trying to cut corners to save a few pennies. This will bite us back very expensively in terms of money and health as I've previously mentioned more than once. Stories about the NHS being overloaded are in the media almost every day and it feels so frustrating to know a reason why some of these overload is happening, with doctors being confounded by the symptoms people are suffering yet they are well known to those who have studied EHS, not to mention the frustration of the almost complete blackout in the media that EHS exists, it just ridicules those who claim to suffer from it. There's been a couple of stories in the news media recently where people are suffering most of the symptoms I suffered, plus some other symptoms of EHS I fortunately haven't suffered and yet nothing is ever mentioned about the possibility that the causation of interference by EMFs with the bio-electrical systems with our bodies. It's always the invisible elephant in the room.

    Finally, I believe attaining over 97,300 views is quite an achievement for an EngX discussion, particularly one that became locked when there were less than 5000 views IIRC. (Losing one regular respondent to EngX discussions and questions in the process.) I hope a flag is raised whenever an EngX discussion reaches 100,000 views, but then I'm probably being over optimistic again in believing that those in charge of the IET are reading our posts. I haven't seen any others that come anywhere near that figure, is this a first for EngX? If so, it ought to be a really big flag. If not, I can assure all, it still deserves a really big flag.

    Andrew