Reasons why I suffered tinnitus, insomnia, chronic fatigue, and other health problems after having digital electricity meters installed

In my last reply to my previous EngX discussion Severe Tinnitus Following the Installation of New Electricity Meters, which is still attracting a lot of viewings over a year on, I stated that my hunt would continue for medical and electrical answers as to why I had suffered bad health reactions including; tinnitus, insomnia, chronic fatigue, migraine, tingles and twitches, sore eyes, sinus problems, blood pressure problems and several other symptoms, during a 197 day ordeal while my home was fitted with a series of 5 digital electricity meters. To some extent, it still remains work in progress, there's a few pieces of the jigsaw to find, but having already found some very concerning science about non‑ionising radiation, how protection from it is regulated and plenty of evidence of others suffering similarly, it is time for an update:

The suspicion that switched-mode power supplies (SMPS) without noise suppression as used by digital electricity meters affected my health has to be valid as all my symptoms considerably improved within 7 days of the traditional electro-mechanical meter being fitted, almost all to the point where they were no longer noticeable. The peaks of electrical noise I found using the FFT function on my oscilloscope prior to fitting this meter on the mains wiring within my home were no longer present. I felt I had been given my life back and I remain grateful to my energy supplier for eventually fulfilling my ever increasingly desperate requests to have such a meter reinstalled.

Unfortunately the 197 day ordeal endured has left its mark and, as many other sufferers have reported, the longer you are exposed to what is causing the health reactions, the more difficult it is to return back to normal. Tinnitus lingers on - unless I am away from my home and other places that seem to still stimulate it. (ie It remains an environmental problem.) What I haven’t had to do since 25 August last year is to abandon my house for respite or sleep out in the garden, as I did so many times during my ordeal.

I have found science indicating that I was not far out with the notion of ultrasonics playing a role in the tinnitus, but rather than acoustics, it is electromagnetic fields oscillating in the ultrasonic range as a consequence of “dirty electricity” - extraneous frequencies on the AC mains in the tens and hundreds of kilohertz. Within human and many other animal ears (this isn’t just a human problem), the tectorial membrane coating hairs in the cochlea and the otoconia in the saccule are piezoelectric. As a result they will convert electric currents arising from ultrasonic frequencies of electric and electromagnetic fields into sound. The auditory nerve itself can be electrically stimulated. The result is that the human ear may be 5,000 to 10,000 times more sensitive to electric and electromagnetic fields oscillating at ultrasonic frequencies than at power line frequencies. The resulting sound is apparently filtered out my most people by their brains, but some people end up hearing a high pitched tinnitus tone close to the top of their hearing range. Resonance is an important factor on sustaining the effect and for starting it in the first place where field strengths are low. This all seems to fit so very closely with my own suffering of a high pitched tone close to the top of my hearing range.

There are also many other mechanisms for interference within the human body by electromagnetic fields. For example; generation of reactive oxygen species (ROS), increased free radical production and activation of voltage-gated calcium channels. These lead to oxidative stress and then all sorts of symptoms can arise including those I experienced last year, as shown in the diagram below:

As I reported in my original discussion, I am far from alone, finding others reporting similar symptoms to myself is quite easy to achieve. Surveys were carried out years ago when people started complaining of health impacts after meters started to be fitted in homes. Here’s a chart from a study of people who complained of health ailments in Australia and the USA after having smart meters fitted in their homes (Source: Steve Weller, 2015. The Biological Effects of Electromagnetic Radiation. 10.13140/RG.2.2.28585.47205.):

The first six of these symptoms figured highly in the period that I had digital meters installed in my home, plus one of the other symptoms. These symptoms, and those in the previous diagram, come up time and time again in reports from others on the ailments people experience in their homes after having had smart meters fitted. If you don’t believe me, then try searching online yourself, it shouldn’t take you very long to find them.

There is plenty of science to substantiate that harm is being done by exposure to man-made electromagnetic radiation. Over 100,000 peer reviewed scientific papers have been published. You can find more than 40,000 such publications and over 7,000 summaries of individual scientific studies at the “The EMF Portal”.

Unfortunately despite all the science and reports of people suffering the same set of symptoms, regulators do not want to admit there are any harmful effects from relatively low levels of man‑made electromagnetic radiation. Politicians do not understand what is happening to people and the environment as a consequence of something that is an invisible problem to all except the scientists working on the matter and those knowingly affected. The politicians refer to the regulators for advice and as they are not going to admit there is a problem with their own guidance, their reply always is; “there is no problem, everything is safe as the exposure is below the ICNIRP limits”. Any individuals complaining that there is a problem are then told they are the first to ever complain, nothing is wrong, despite many complaints previously going back well over a decade.

There are many scientists and campaigners calling for changes to how exposure limits are regulated and a search on the Internet will reveal immense dissatisfaction with the guidelines from the ICNIRP, the WHO’s “The International EMF Project” and other related radiation protection bodies through their stubbornness in not accepting any of the science that reveals harmful effects other than heating, despite another part of WHO declaring Electromagnetic Fields a “Class 2B possible carcinogen”. (See: https://www.iarc.who.int/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/pr208_E.pdf)  In 2021 a group of scientists, doctors and related professionals whose work and warnings on the effects of non-ionising radiation were constantly being ignored, set up the “International Commission on the Biological Effects of Electromagnetic Fields” with the aim of providing independent recommendations on exposure limits that do protect the public and the environment. (See: https://icbe-emf.org/)

There are problems not just with the magnitude of the limits currently imposed but also how radiation intensity is measured. For example, strong pulses of radiation are averaged out over a comparatively large timescale that reduces the intensity to a negligible amount when compared to the limit, but the pulse itself could have been above the limit for an instant and/or strong enough to create a shock-wave within the bioelectrical systems of the human body. Frequency as well as the intensity of the radiation is also a significant factor, certain frequencies at a low intensity can cause more effects than other frequencies at much higher intensities.

The ICNIRP, despite refusing to accept any science revealing harmful effects other than heating injury, states in its guidance for low frequencies (LF), the range that I believe had a significant detrimental affect on my health:

“When people are exposed to LF fields, electric fields and currents are generated inside the body and they can interfere with the body’s own electric fields and current flows related to normal biological functioning.”
(From: https://www.icnirp.org/en/frequencies/low-frequency/index.html)

What follows this statement are remarks about the effects being mainly unnoticed, temporary and inconsequential. This is not something I will ever concur with as my health so badly compromised last year. There is also a statement that high exposures can cause permanent irreversible cardio-vascular effects. Common effects reported for low exposure to frequencies caused by dirty electricity include; cardio vascular problems. Scarily, investigations into links with Alzheimer’s and ALS/MND are mentioned as being “inconclusive”, as are insomnia and cognitive functioning. I can vouch for the latter pair of ailments, I hope I never have to vouch for the former pair. There is also scientific evidence on childhood leukaemia resulting from exposure to high tension power lines, yet the ICNIRP state there is no proof of any such causation.

Despite requests, Russia refuses to follow the ICNIRP guidelines due to research it carried out during the Soviet era and remains alarmed that the West hasn’t heeded the science it shared some years ago. It sets its limits for levels of exposure at just 1% of the ICNIRP levels, as does China and many former Soviet and Eastern Bloc States. Here’s a comparison albeit these are limits applying for microwave frequency exposure (Source Jamieson, I. 2014: RF / Microwave Radiation Risk Awareness, Figure 1):

As you can see, some countries and regions in Western Europe take the matter even more seriously than Russia and China.

While not adopting stricter exposure limits yet, Sweden acknowledges the existence of electro‑hypersensitivity as a “functional impairment disability” with around 3.2% of the population already identified as sufferers. (Sweden is not alone in the recognition of EHS.) This would equate to over 2 million people in the UK. Some estimates of electro-hypersensitivity put the percentage at 12%, the median value seems to be between 5% and 6%, roughly equating to 3.5 million people in the UK. Note the charity ES-UK states that around 50% of the population will notice some sort of effect(s) and the rest don’t escape, they just won’t notice how they are being affected.

Thanks to the lead times in symptoms appearing and the medical profession having had no training to spot causation of symptoms via electro-hypersensitivity, cases are not being recorded and we simply do not know just how big the problem currently is in the UK. People who suspect they have symptoms due to an electrical device being installed in or near their home will be told it is simply nonsense. However, there are statistics for the related symptoms of tinnitus, insomnia, chronic fatigue, migraines and ADHD and many others indicating that these are all on the rise within the population, some rising as a percentage very quickly indeed. However, it seems no one in the NHS wants to take notice into the research pointing out these as symptoms of electromagnetic radiation exposure. My GPs are interested but say they don’t have time to look into the matter. Meanwhile, the pressure on their already stretched services for treatment regarding these ailments continues to increase.

One of the remaining questions I haven’t found any answers for yet is: “Why am I so different to have become hypersensitive before most others?” I don’t particularly feel special in any way, I might have more amalgam fillings than I would like (some people cite these as aiding and abetting such sensitivity but my dentist doesn’t see it as a worthwhile reason to go to the trouble of replacing them) and I’ve also had quite a few MRI scans in my time. However, I simply haven’t been able to establish any commonalities with other sufferers. Hence I can't state who will be vulnerable to this problem. I had no idea I would ever suffer like I did last year, I put my trust in the people who authoritatively stated there was nothing to be concerned about. They may easily be the next to suffer.

We all are electrical beings, animals and plants too. All are dead without internal electrical activity and all respond to electromagnetic fields, some at very low levels of intensity, birds for navigation as an example. (There are many scientific papers concerning effects on birds, bees and trees.) It appears that we all have our own individual threshold of tolerating interference from non‑ionising radiation. The diagram below was originally produced in Germany by Professor Karl Hecht in 2016, which depicts the different stages of coping:

The timescales involved are rather long, the human body can put up with so much, but at some point, failure to cope will occur. The timeline in the diagram is actually just an example to show how long the process can take and that’s one of the reasons EHS is so complicated to define as a causation of ill health. The other is that oxidative stress is caused by other things in our modern day lives. Ultra Processed Foods (UPFs) for example, which are facing similar complaints of ill health from scientists, while the government advice comes from people associated with the very industry producing UPFs and promoting them as being good for us. Check out the health data panel on the side of a can of diet cola for example. You might decide it's so healthy you want to drink nothing else. (Please don’t reply about that.)

Just over a year ago, I made contact the lead author of "Dirty power from new electricity meters: Key to a health problem?” (Please note links within this document have been fixed since the document was uploaded in my previous discussion). This document contains information on SMPS in electricity meters leading to tinnitus, insomnia, concentration problems, fatigue and joint pain. He pointed me to two books he and his co-authors had written on the entire subject of how ill health can result from smart and dumb electricity meters, but written in Norwegian. These books have since been fully translated into English, they include the above diagrams and much more of the science surrounding them. They are free to download from the author’s website:

https://einarflydal.com/sdm_downloads/download-smartmeters-dirty-electricity-pulses-and-health-pdf/

https://einarflydal.com/sdm_downloads/download-smart-meters-the-law-and-health-pdf/

Both books were originally written before my ordeal with digital meters began. “Smart meters, dirty electricity, pulses and health” is the most recent of the books and has had some updates during its translation. It provides quite a comprehensive view of the whole subject of health related problems arising from non-ionising radiation emitted by electricity meters plus other devices/equipment.

“Smart meters, the law and health” is more or less a direct translation of the Norwegian version with a few notes containing updated information. Part 1 of this book concerns the law in Norway, where smart meters were made mandatory, and the law concerning the European Convention on Human Rights. The Annexe, Part 2, is the forerunner of the other more recent book, but it contains some interesting additional details including how the ICNIRP and “The International EMF Project” were founded and how they operate to maintain the “thermal paradigm” that only heating effects need to be prevented. This book was originally published in 2018 and in the conclusion to Part 2, the author made this rather interesting prediction:

“From around 2022, there will be a tipping point in health statistics. From around 2025 it should be possible to observe that from 2022 there has been a growth in general morbidity, and the increase in morbidity will be steeper in the following 10-15 years. Some – the “electrically insensitive” – who in number are perhaps as numerous as the electrically hypersensitive – will go completely free.

The most common symptoms will be neuro-vegetative disturbances such as neuroses, depression, fatigue during the daytime, performance impairment, sleep problems, headaches, various changes in heart/vascular functions, hyperactivity, cardiac arrhythmia, tinnitus and inner restlessness.”

How true this prediction came for me in 2022. As for the prediction for the period 2025 to 2040 about increasing morbidity, a few months ago “The Health Foundation” made exactly the same prediction about increasing morbidity: 2.5 million more people in england projected to be living with major illness by 2040. The illnesses it cites as causing the rise in morbidity are; anxiety and depression, chronic pain and diabetes. Sifting through the research papers, these conditions come up time and again as long term problems with links to overexposure to non-ionising radiation, plus lots more of concern too. (For a lengthy list of possible effects and ailments, please see section 14 within “Selected Studies on Electrosensitivity (ES) and Electromagnetic Hyper-sensitivity (EHS)”.)

It is of no surprise that the Norwegian books take aim at the ICNIRP and the related WHO’s “The International EMF Project”. The books describe how the science presented to these organisations is sifted and rebuffed, but rather than disagreeing outright when harm is difficult to deny, they send it back to the authors with a note stating; “further research required”. How they deliberately ignore the precautionary and “ALARA” (As Low As Reasonably Achievable) principles in the face of science showing there are problems is also explained, and that recklessness should be worrying to all of us, not just to the people who have become affected already.

If you still don’t want to believe these books and all the science they reference, nor what happened to myself, just try searching the Internet for “dirty electricity” and “smart meters tinnitus” and you will receive plenty of results. There’ll be a few weird and wonderful websites returned among the results, but I scanned through the top 1,000 results for “dirty electricity” very recently and found only a few results that were off topic. Most of the results appeared to be reporting very similar things about the technologies that cause it and the symptoms being suffered.

What is also highly noticeable in all the searching online I’ve been doing, is the absence of any viable alternative to explain how I became so ill last year nor any science attempting to prove the human body is 100% compatible with man-made electromagnetic radiation (up to the point at which heating injuries occur). There are scientific reports that low levels of interference can actually make improvements to health in certain circumstances. Recently BBC Click on 7 October featured the Nissan Formula E racing team drivers being subjected to low levels of electromagnetic radiation in order to stimulate their brains in seemingly successful attempts to improve their reaction speeds and alleviate insomnia due to jet lag. There’s plenty of other science too on positive effects, but you can’t accept there are no effects if you want to accept that there are good effects.

While dirty electricity can be produced by many appliances, and very worryingly many are devices that are being promoted as saving the environment, what can be done with reference to electricity meters? Most importantly, they need to include electrical noise suppression to stop their power supplies creating and spreading dirty electricity around the home and the local neighbourhood. Next, why can’t they use the home’s broadband router (with VOIP telephony being rapidly rolled-out, almost every home in the UK will have one soon) to return data to the energy companies rather than putting in another wi-fi router and what is essentially a mobile phone that makes a call at least once every 30 mins 24/7? As for the in‑home display unit, why not an app for the computer or phone? I’m finding a lot of people throw these displays in a drawer thinking that this the smart meter and then claim they don’t have one! For those who have wi-fi intolerance (a co-author of the Norwegian books is one such person), then how about an Ethernet socket so that a cable can be run between the meters and to the home’s broadband router? There’s certainly no need for mobile phone communication, which is such a bugbear for many smart meters already installed and now to the mobile phone industry who are having to keep the second generation of mobile phone systems running longer than ought to have been necessary.

As for ES/EHS sufferers; what I’ve found is that they are living in an absolute nightmare situation. People are suffering, very very badly in some cases, from something that others do not want to believe exists. Appropriate help is near impossible to obtain from the authorities and the medical profession, allowing their suffering to continue and worsen with time. (I even had treatments for an unrelated problem withdrawn due to my physical condition deteriorating so much.) Then they have to suffer the taunts of delusion, of psychological causation, despite all the peer reviewed science readily available and the commonality of symptoms reported by sufferers around the world over many years, many of whom were blind to the problem before they started suffering symptoms, myself included. Even so, the result is not the compassionate care that befits anyone suffering mental illness, it is more akin to the treatment lepers received in bygone centuries; sufferers are shunned and made outcasts from ordinary society. Those like myself who find themselves sensitive to digital electricity meters, are told to live with the meter causing them harm or have the electricity turned off. Anyone wondering what the latter is like, just turn your electricity off and see how long you last before craving to turn it back on. Some ES/EHS sufferers retreat to living off-grid in the wilderness to try to escape the technologies hurting them and the people deriding them. The way sufferers are treated can result in extreme mental anguish, serious anxiety and depression can set in. Suicides are not unknown.

This is not the treatment any minority deserves in the 21st Century, certainly not one that is trying its best to stop others from following in their wake by raising the alarm about what is happening to them and the environment as a whole. Without recognition, independent regulation and engineering solutions, this problem is soon going to become a lot lot worse as we rush into electrifying almost everything in our lives. I’ve had a preview of the future and if nothing changes, it’s going to be far from an environmentally friendly and healthy place. For many it will be a very dark place indeed.

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  • Got Rid of My Smart Meter and Got My Life Back

    Approximately 8-10 years ago, my utility company began replacing our analog meters with Smart Meters.  I chose to take advantage of the opt-out option, paying the up front opt-out fee along with the recurring monthly meter reading fee.  Several months ago, the utility replaced my electric meter.  Although the new meter had a blinking digital readout, the technician assured me that it was not a Smart Meter.  Within one day after installation of the new meter, I began experiencing debilitating falling down dizzy spells every time I walked past the meter, as well as feeling those same effects inside my home.  EMF exposure symptoms do not subside immediately, even after moving away from the source.  In my case, they can linger for as long as 2-3 hours, forcing me to remain bedridden during that time.

    After several months of dizzy spells, brain fog, and inability to perform my activities of daily living, I notified the utility company about the problems I was having and requested that the meter be replaced.  After a bit of discussion, the utility company agreed to remove the meter and replace it with the analog dial unit.  I experienced  immediate relief of all symptoms after the meter was replaced.

    Prior to requesting removal of the digital meter, I spent several months trying to find some physical reason that might explain the sudden onset of my symptoms.  As a last resort, I decided to do some research on the digital meter that had been installed.  I was astonished to find (based on information from the manufacturer's website) that the utility company had in fact replaced my analog meter with a Smart Meter.  Even more astonishing was the fact that my meter was changed, even though I had paid the opt-out fees in order to keep my analog meter.

    When I contacted the utility and told them what I had learned about the meter they had installed, and requested that they return my analog meter, I was once again told the unit was not a Smart Meter.  I explained to them that turning off the transmitter in no way changed the unit into a different kind of meter.  That would be like saying if you take the wheels off a car, it's no longer a car!

  • doctors will often pass these symptoms off as medically unrecognised symptoms (MUS)

    "Medically unexplained symptoms" is the usual phrase. They account for approximately a third of hospital outpatient consultations across a wide range of specialities.

    Try listening to a 14 kHz tone using a free tone generator app or website at a volume you wouldn't want to listen to for longer than 1 second.

    It would be very unusual for a middle-aged person to hear anything at 14 kHz.

  • Thanks Chris,

    Indeed, I should have written "unexplained". Sorry for the muddle-up.

    The older you are, the less likely you are to hear 14 kHz. For those you can't hear 14 kHz, then reduce the frequency until you can hear a tone, you should still get a good idea of what is buzzing around my head if it is above 10 kHz.

    Around 50% of my friends and family who have tried this, middle-aged or younger, can hear 14 kHz. They all hated it and wondered how I endured it as long as I did. I still have it, it's just at a lower intensity and without many of the other horrid symptoms that drove me out of my own home to seek respite elsewhere at various times back in 2022.

    Cheers,

    Andrew

  •  It would be very unusual for a middle-aged person to hear anything at 14 kHz.

    I'm not so sure about the 'very' in that. Certainly hearing degrades with age, and the HF end goes first,  But a lot of the research data on adult deafness, and the expectation of adult hearing loss  dates back to a time when as a society we looked after our ears a lot less than than we do today and a lot of the data was gathered from tests  on servicemen and those who had worked in heavy industries both of which groups were exposed to very high noise levels, presumably more folk get their ears tested when something is wrong, rather than when it is all working well,

    It is quite amusing to note how much of the definition for what levels define normal hearing and deafness comes from  early work by the GPO and the development of the land-line telephone, and such gives slightly unfair weight to narrow-band  speech rather than the full spectrum response.. 

    There is the problem of headphones and loud music of course, damaging hearing in the next generation for the modern era,

    Personally I'm probably a bit more than middle aged,  (59 next birthday) and while the volume has to be turned quite a bit relative to say 4000Hz I can reliably detect the presence or absence of 14k still, I've just tried it here. https://onlinetonegenerator.com/ Mind you as a child  I was always one of those who could hear the old CRT TV whistle when my grandparents could not. (10KHz on VHF and 15kHz on UHF )

    Anyway, I agree with the general principle but I suspect more than just a few can hear up to and beyond  14K

    Mike

  • AFAIK, the seminal work on hearing in adults is still Adrian Davis's work from 1995. I was delighted to see that a .pdf is now freely available.

    You may notice that thresholds are measured only to 8 kHz, which is the limit of a normal clinical audiometer. So, I have to admit that there are unlikely to be any reliable data at 14 kHz (or at 12 kHz and 16 kHz).

  • Chris - Thanks. (Note though - you need to tweak the URL for the pdf - everything after and including the "?" needs to be removed to access the PDF document directly.)

    Mike - Thanks for confirming you too can hear 14 kHz, but let's go with saying we are middle aged, at least for a few years yet!

    Everyone:

    According to 3 tone generators I used 4 years ago to establish what frequency I was perceiving, I found my acoustic hearing stopped at 15 kHz. My wife is a few years younger than me and her range stopped at 13 kHz. My ultrasound hearing ability ranges up 30 kHz at least, I can't give you an absolute start and finish range, nor do I know what frequencies result in the ear pressure sensation I suffered I suffered. What I do know is that this is all blind testable - ie can be substantiated under scientific test conditions.

    My dentist can confirm I can hear his ultrasonic descalers (25 kHz and 30 kHz) whenever he has them in my mouth. The 21.75 kHz the broadband router I was sent exacerbated my 14 kHz tinnitus tone after booting up. The garden pest repeller that I can also hear at 14 kHz does not state what the 3 frequencies are that it uses for scaring away dogs, cats and squirrels, but the general range stated for the brand is 20 kHz to 65 kHz. A retailer makes this claim for an updated version of the product:

    "Deters pests like cats, dogs, and squirrels without affecting humans."

    I wonder if I can claim? How can they even make their claim? After all, the instruction sheet for the product states:

    "Keep the repeller away from young children. Young children can be especially sensitive to ultrasonic soundwaves"

    Aren't children humans?

    What the dickens are we playing at by making such things? The repeller that I can hear caused very intense ear pain. That is not acceptable. These things are put in in people's gardens, some of whom will have children who play in them and the sound when triggered may carry over into neighbouring gardens where other children may be playing. The science on their efficacy of scaring pets away is not very good either. Please do not buy them.

    Then there's the Mosquito device deliberately made to scare teenagers away thanks to the horrible tone it emits at 17 kHz. I'm not a fan as you can imagine despite being under 25 was a long time ago now (yes, not just teenagers) and even though I've never heard one. I do not like sound being used to cause anyone deliberate distress.

    I'll take the opportunity to mention that I was once in a major store and in the toilets there was a warning sign above the hand driers saying something along the lines of: "Some people may find the noise of these driers distressing." No alternative given, no warning before you go in, no sign saying please use the disabled loo if you have hyperacousis etc etc. How can we as a profession be proud of being behind the design and manufacture of hand driers that are so noisy they can cause distress? How a store thinks a sign you only see at the final stage of your visit to a smallish echo-chamber takes care of their responsibilities is another matter.

    No wonder hearing problems of all types are rise. (see https://rnid.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Hearing-Matters-Report.pdf + plenty other reports.) Wasn't hearing damage supposed to get less in this health and safety conscious technological age, compared to the awful clatter and banging of the mechanical equipment used in the industrial age that Mike and I can just about remember?

    Andrew

  • you need to tweak the URL for the pdf

    All done

    No wonder hearing problems of all types are rise.

    Yes, but the commonest cause of hearing loss is being old, and the population is getting older.

    "Some people may find the noise of these driers distressing."

    Typically autistic people. I think that it is one of those noises which is less comfortable if somebody else is using the machine.

    Andrew, one thing is puzzling me slightly. Is there a stimulus when you experience the tinnitus please?

  • Hi Chris,

    Hearing problems are increasing at all ages. With the younger generation, listening to music on headphones or earbuds too loud is more the problem. Yes, of course our hearing gets worse with age, hence the Mosquito device works with the youth and not the middle-aged and older. There are plenty of things that I could say about EMFs and tinnitus, but we'll come back to that below and on another day. Whatever, we need to do more as a profession to stop people being blasted with sound that is unnecessary, and that includes hand driers (I really cannot believe that they are being made with the need for warning signs), pest repellers and electronics such as broadband routers. Totally no need for the latter. ( Why are some broadband routers emitting ultrasound? ) One of the problems with the high frequency devices is that most people can't hear them and therefore think they are not a problem. They are for some people and they are polluting the environment with sounds that wildlife use for communicating and navigation. It's bad on so many levels. Those who can't perceive a sound, you are still hearing it, it can still damage your ears if it's too loud for too long, it's just your brain filters out the frequency produced by the cochlea, which is basically the same design for all mammals.

    Yes, autistic, those with hyperacusis and other groups with diverse needs will find loud driers distressing. If it's not you using the machine then loud noises from elsewhere are more distressing than when you use them as you often don't know when they'll start or end, which is one of the reasons why if there's a warning sign needed, it needs to be on the door before you enter the room, not just above the driers themselves. A quick search has told me 2% of people are known to have hyperacusis, but it could be as many as 9% due to the lack of awareness and diagnosis. Autism affects 1%, possibly 1.7%. There will be an overlap, but you are talking about potentially upsetting almost 7 million people in the UK. Store managers: There are plenty of driers exist that work at far more acceptable noise levels without driving your customers away.

    As regards the stimulus for my tinnitus, I think we know I blame the digital smart or not smart electricity meters for the nasty symptoms I developed from 15 hours after the first was fitted. I don't have one of those meters now of course, but that hasn't been the end of my problems with ultrasonic frequencies of dirty electricity. My tinnitus will very slowly wane either away from my house or with the electricity turned off with the double pole master switch. Obviously when I'm at home I want the electricity to be on. Overnight, I can switch the bedroom circuits off, but that is not as effective as turning off all the electricity. I can sense a difference outside of the substation supply area, sometimes quite sharply when returning into that area. The supply cable is older than me and degrading similarly. Other people are installing electrically noisy equipment in the area, so the dirty electricity builds up and as I've said before, it doesn't have to be your meter or solar panels that are affecting you if you are one of the unlucky people affected. Other houses and some hotels can be really bad, particularly those with the same 2 types of smart meter and hotels will lots of solar panels and close to wind farms. All fixable before the greens complain, but those in charge have got to listen to the scientists working on EHS.

    Ultrasonic dental descaling has not caused tinnitus, nor even those nasty pest repellers, but I believe that is due to the short term exposure, despite being much more intense than the EMFs from the dirty electricity. Some people have reported tinnitus resulting from dental descaling. What I don't know is, has exposure to these devices and others emitting ultrasound either purposefully or as a byproduct of their design and operation, made my ears more prone to suffering tinnitus? I guess I'll never know. The tone from the descaling was happened long before 2022 and I thought everybody did, although womewhat puzzling if it really was ultrasound as no one should hear anything of course. I wish I'd told the dentist earlier, not that it would have made any difference regarding what happened in 2022 as I had no idea that electricity meters could cause tinnitus and all the other horrible symptoms I endured. If I had done lots and lots of homework, I would have known, the information was out there, particularly in that 2013 Parliamentary committee evidence. ( RE: Reasons why I suffered tinnitus, insomnia, chronic fatigue, and other health problems after having digital electricity meters installed )

    Regards,

    Andrew

  • As regards the stimulus for my tinnitus

    The OED's entry for "tinnitus" is brief: "A sensation of ringing in the ears."

    However, what if you are standing in a churchyard and the bells are ringing? Or in school at the end of a lesson? That isn't really tinnitus.

    What of buzzing or hissing; continuous or pulsating? Are some of these sensations not tinnitus?

    So really and truly, tinnitus is a sensation of hearing something in the absence of an appropriate stimulus. The reason that I asked the question is that if there is a stimulus, arguably, it cannot be tinnitus.

    Note that I am not talking about a trigger such as an explosion, which has left persistent ringing due to damage to the inner ear.

  • Hi Chris,

    I was expecting you to try claiming that the ringing in my ears is not tinnitus once again. (Post of 13 April 2022 -RE: Severe Tinnitus Following the Installation of New Electricity Meters ) So, once again; the NHS defines tinnitus as: "The name for hearing noises that are not caused by sounds coming from the outside world."

    EF/EMFs are inaudible, they do not [edit - missed word "not"] create sound pressure waves, but I will agree that under their initial stimulus, what I heard as a result was not tinnitus. Moving away from their stimulus, the tone I heard carried on and on. That is tinnitus and it has rarely dropped below the threshold of perception since. Under their stimulus now, the tone is boosted, resulting in the duration the tone continues being extended, many days, not hours as it was at the beginning. Some people will hear a tone when under the stimulus of EMFs that fades immediately when they move away or turn off the stimulus - if they can. Fortunately for them, this is not tinnitus.

    Using your bells scenario: Once the bells stop, if you keep hearing the ringing going on and on, then this is tinnitus, even if it only lasts for a few minutes (hopefully, in this sort of case). In the last 4 years and nearly 2 months, there have been very few occasions when I haven't been bothered by the 14 kHz tone. During my ordeal with the meters in 2022, any reduction in the intensity of my tinnitus I achieved by seeking respite in rental accommodation, was gone in a few minutes, sometimes in a few seconds after walking through the front door. That can now be half an hour to a few hours, but it always returns.

    I've discussed my tinnitus with plenty of GPs, audiologists, an ENT specialist and even with the CEO of Tinnitus UK. They all agree I have tinnitus; high-pitched monotone non-pulsatile for the record. I gave the CEO all the scientific information I had found on ultrasound hearing and the effects of EMFs on the cochlea. He's thanked me on behalf of his researchers, who hadn't been aware of most of it. I hope they have been looking at it since, as in there, I am certain there are clues on how my type of tinnitus and others can be stopped, but it is no good stopping it, if every time you walk into your house or even down the street outside above where the mains supply cable is buried, if the resonant tone starts all over again, simply because the electrical power industry doesn't have a clue what it is feeding into people's homes and won't listen to people who are affected like myself, electrically qualified or not.

    It's difficult, really really difficult, to cope with this tone almost 24/7 Chris. Impossible at times in 2022 along with the other symptoms, hence the reason I kept leaving home for respite. I haven't had to seek respite for the sole purpose of reducing the tone's intensity or any other symptoms since since the meter was changed back to analogue. A lot of the other symptoms have never come back, but the tone I perceive continues to resonate on and on, insomnia is the other main remaining problem, thanks to the tone and a busy mind.

    Over 4 years 53 days and counting. I've much better things to be doing than keep pushing for people to believe how bad my ordeal was at the mercy of these meters, being made against good engineering practices, put into everybody's homes, while the diseases that have been associated with dirty electricity are going up and up, adding to the strain on the NHS and the benefits system. Yet nobody wants to know. It's all getting worse and one day it will blow up, there isn't an alternative, not while I and all the others affected are being made to look like fools instead of being heeded.

    Regards,

    Andrew

  • I was expecting you to try claiming that the ringing in my ears is not tinnitus once again.

    Andrew, my apologies - you obviously have a much better memory than I do.

    I don't know exactly what you experience.

    Using your bells scenario: Once the bells stop, if you keep hearing the ringing going on and on, then this is tinnitus, even if it only lasts for a few minutes (hopefully, in this sort of case).

    Agreed, and probably with a temporary threshold shift. However, one day, if you keep doing it, the ringing does not stop because the ears have been permanently damaged.

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  • I was expecting you to try claiming that the ringing in my ears is not tinnitus once again.

    Andrew, my apologies - you obviously have a much better memory than I do.

    I don't know exactly what you experience.

    Using your bells scenario: Once the bells stop, if you keep hearing the ringing going on and on, then this is tinnitus, even if it only lasts for a few minutes (hopefully, in this sort of case).

    Agreed, and probably with a temporary threshold shift. However, one day, if you keep doing it, the ringing does not stop because the ears have been permanently damaged.

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  • Thanks Chris. How can I forget your posts in my original discussion?!

    Further regarding the bells scenario, agreed; the more you are exposed the more prolonged the tinnitus and temporary threshold shifts become and as you say, can lead to permanent damage. So, if the sound is ultrasonic, unless you are a sufferer of the ultrasound hearing phenomenon, you won't hear anything, but threshold shifts in hearing can still occur, as they are a known symptom of exposure to ultrasound.

    Deafness related problems are something I've considered before, as when I had my hearing tested, it was declared normal for 'someone of my age'. Often tinnitus can be associated with an actual problem hearing problem, but not necessarily with the type of tinnitus I have. So the question is; are people having their hearing put at risk by having devices in their home that generate ultrasound and/or EMFs in the ultrasonic range, particularly those that are switched on 24/7? This could be even worse than I thought previously.

    A quick follow-up on my own previous post: Ultrasound as well as normal acoustic sound can be emitted from electronic devices as some electronic components will physically vibrate at the frequency of the electricity applied. See replies to my question about broadband routers emitting ultrasound for further information:  Why are some broadband routers emitting ultrasound?  Of course, this applies to switched-mode power supplies as well.  (RE: Severe Tinnitus Following the Installation of New Electricity Meters )

    Andrew