What electricity really is

I purely by chance read something on quora digest that electricity isn't the flow of electrons but photons that are ejected from free electrons then re absorbed by another free electron this process makes them vibrate  and move forward a fraction of an inch. Now I know there was a discussion  about this on here a while back so what was the final conclussion. I know its a tough subject ide like to get my head round it of course its made harder because I can't understand the maths. 

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  • Well it rather depends what you think electrons are - particles of known mass, known magnetic moment, known charge, and yet immeasurably small (though how small 'immeasurable' is keeps falling with better experiments, the diameter of an electron is is still one of those that is a 'less than' quantity)

    Like all objects with mass, when on the move, electrons also have a wavelength, (read up on Mr de Broglie if this is unfamiliar,)

    Photons are simply the smallest quanta of any given frequency of electromagnetic radiation. As such they have velocity, momentum, no mass and a wavelength related to the frequency, with the right  kit, a sort of modified cathode ray tube, a variations on the two slits experiment for demonstrating the wave nature of light, works just as well to demonstrate the wave nature of electrons as well.

    If you want to consider a static electric field to be a  representation of the chance of intercepting a DC photon then yes electons radiate those, in the sense they create a field. It may not be that useful as a concept.

    Then any other electron, or other charged thing, in that field (or probability of intercept) will be acted on by a force (quantized, but for DC infinitesimally so) and experience a force..

    Now please consider exaclty what stops you falling through your chair, when you and it are both mostly empty space. (between the electrons on the outer shells of the atoms  and the nucleus is nothing but the vast emptiness of 'solid'  matter - an atom is about 1/10 of a nanometer accross, while the nucleaus is a few times 10^-15 m - that is a lot of emptiness).

    Clearly  there is  repulsion between the electrons of the atoms of 'chair'  and those in the atoms of 'person', both charged particles in each others fields, and an exchange of forces  occurs - the same between a hammer and a nail too. If you want to think of this as photons, it is perfectly valid to think so. It is however one of the less useful models compared to fields.

    Mike.

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  • Well it rather depends what you think electrons are - particles of known mass, known magnetic moment, known charge, and yet immeasurably small (though how small 'immeasurable' is keeps falling with better experiments, the diameter of an electron is is still one of those that is a 'less than' quantity)

    Like all objects with mass, when on the move, electrons also have a wavelength, (read up on Mr de Broglie if this is unfamiliar,)

    Photons are simply the smallest quanta of any given frequency of electromagnetic radiation. As such they have velocity, momentum, no mass and a wavelength related to the frequency, with the right  kit, a sort of modified cathode ray tube, a variations on the two slits experiment for demonstrating the wave nature of light, works just as well to demonstrate the wave nature of electrons as well.

    If you want to consider a static electric field to be a  representation of the chance of intercepting a DC photon then yes electons radiate those, in the sense they create a field. It may not be that useful as a concept.

    Then any other electron, or other charged thing, in that field (or probability of intercept) will be acted on by a force (quantized, but for DC infinitesimally so) and experience a force..

    Now please consider exaclty what stops you falling through your chair, when you and it are both mostly empty space. (between the electrons on the outer shells of the atoms  and the nucleus is nothing but the vast emptiness of 'solid'  matter - an atom is about 1/10 of a nanometer accross, while the nucleaus is a few times 10^-15 m - that is a lot of emptiness).

    Clearly  there is  repulsion between the electrons of the atoms of 'chair'  and those in the atoms of 'person', both charged particles in each others fields, and an exchange of forces  occurs - the same between a hammer and a nail too. If you want to think of this as photons, it is perfectly valid to think so. It is however one of the less useful models compared to fields.

    Mike.

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