Having looked at the article I am not sure there is a need to change anything. The possibilities given are full of ifs and the chance of producing a viable nuclear bomb seems incredibly small.

There is a small theoretical possibility of making a bomb with 10% enriched U235. Weapons are usually made with 80% or more enriched U235.

To start with you would need to divert around 1 ton of HALEU. At a suggested cost of around USD 20 000 per kg this would have a value of around USD 20 million I think that people would be looking after it quite carefully anyway.

https://www.nuclearinnovationalliance.org/sites/default/files/2023-12/NIA%20HALEU%20Cost%20Report%20%2812_15_23%29_1.pdf

You would then need the ability to convert this to a suitable form and phase to make the core of a bomb. Uranium metal is pyrophoric to add to the challenge of working with it.

Next you would need to be able to make an explosive implosion system to very  symmetrically compress the core to a supercritical mass and then inject a stream of neutrons to start the chain reaction. You will probably need a source of Tritium for this.

If you manage to get this far, and as the paper suggests this is something that would require the resources of a state not a small terror group, there is still a high possibility that the neutrons from the U238 will cause a premature weak explosion, a fizzle.

As the paper also states if you have the resources to put a bomb together from HALEU you would do better to follow a different route and make a smaller much more reliable weapon.

Hello Roger:

I reached the same conclusion as you did, however I remember a UK published article a few years back (which I can not find) about the need to place SMR's within existing Nuclear Power Stations for security reasons.

If SMR's are not placed in "super" secure locations where will they be placed? 

Do you want one placed just around the corner from where you live?  

Peter Brooks

Palm Bay

It wouldn’t worry me to have an SMR around the corner, but in general it seems to make sense to place them where there are or have been power stations as the grid and cooling infrastructure already exists. This is a critical problem for wind and solar PV which tends to be generated far away from the existing power grid. There have been some studies on reusing the existing generators and generating the steam with an SMR with appropriate reactor physics.

www.world-nuclear-news.org/.../US-study-examines-feasibility-of-coal-to-nuclear-c

It would also make sense to place them near existing high consumption users like aluminium smelters and data centres again to reduce the grid requirements.

Hello Roger:-

While "you" may not worry about the placement of SMR in your immediate area I am willing to bet your neighbors my not feel the same way.

Social and political pressures must be considered whenever the term "nuclear" comes up.

I remember the public pressure that was applied in my county many years ago, when NASA decided to start using nuclear power sources in Satellites launched from the Cape.

Here in Florida LNG has replaced coal in most (if not all) power stations.

Peter Brooks

Palm Bay

And then we can go back to the 60's (?) when you could have children's toys containing radioactive materials! (as well as other things)

Seem to remember that people sleeping with a luminous watch next to their head were exceeding the radiation limit by millions and should all have died by now.  No evidence of high radiation deaths reported yet?

Seem to remember that people sleeping with a luminous watch next to their head were exceeding the radiation limit by millions and should all have died by now.  No evidence of high radiation deaths reported yet?

Unfortunately radiation safety is based on an unproven theory, the Linear No Threshold (LNT) theory.

There is nothing to support the claimed hazards of low level radiation, such as from a luminous watch. High levels of radiation are very definitely dangerous/fatal especially when delivered in a short time frame. 10 Sv will kill you, 0.5 Sv will cause changes in your blood count, It appears that around 0.1 Sv will increase your risk of cancer.

Various areas of the world have significantly different levels of background radiation, due to  Radium, Uranium and Thorium containing rocks and sand as well as altitude (more cosmic radiation). If the LNT was valid this should show in these areas. Many people have carried out studies, none of which have produced any significant results.

This webpage is quite a nice illustration of radiation levels and effects and notes that the environmental gamma radiation dose rate in Tokyo is around 0.05 µSv per hour  while the average dose rate in Kerala, India may reach 1.5 µSv per hour, a 30-1 range.

https://www.hko.gov.hk/en/education/radiation/ionizing-radiation/00298-variations-in-the-environmental-radiation-levels-around-the-world.html

The hazards of low levels of ionizing radiation have unfortunately become belief/religious based rather than science based. I think I would rather have an SMR at the end of my garden than a large Lithium battery storage complex.

I think I would rather have an SMR at the end of my garden than a large Lithium battery storage complex.

Seconded.

But both might be good.

Mike

Excellent we all agree that small nuclear reactors are the way forward to green the grid by 2050. But how can we convince the government to prioritise its development rather than electrifying service stations on our motorways I wonder.

The problem of disposing of spent nuclear fuel could be easily solved if the stars are made of anti-matter as we could fire a rocket with tons on board straight at the sun which would annihilate the radio active matter kilogram for kilogram on contact with its upper atmosphere.   However, we must await the Parker probe annihilation before proceeding with this course of action.

Actually it would be a better idea if the spent radio active material was placed on the moon  for long term storage.

It is very difficult to send a rocket directly to the sun- I suggest you look at the path they had to use for the Parker probe.

Peter Brooks

Palm Bay 

given the fraction of space rockets that blow up on the pad, a safer place for the spent radioactive material is probably in  the car park. So long as you don't loiter near it it will be quite happy there. If you want a bit more shielding so you can stand  closer, surround it with water or concrete blocks.

This is, oddly enough all well understood, and nothing special for the SMR.

Mike

Hello Mike:

If your worry about the high number of space rockets that blow up on the pad, then that's a very good reason for launching them all from North Scotland.

Peter Brooks

Palm Bay  

Looks like my first option of dropping the radio active  container in middle of the ocean is the safest because even if it leaked in a thousand years time it will do little damage.

Hello Clive:

If dumping of radio active material in the water is an acceptable option then may I suggest it be placed in the Beaufort's Dyke, which is a trench between Northern Scotland and Ireland.

It was used after WW1 to dump million tons of munitions and chemical weapons.

If that is not acceptable, then one of the other sites quoted in the following report "Overview of Past dumping at sea of chemical weapons and munitions in the OSPAR Maritime area" published in 2005 (page 9 shows a map of other areas) by the OSPAR Commission (see www.ospar.org), could be used.

I still like my idea of using the Moon for storage of this material.

Peter Brooks

Palm Bay 

A big question here is what we actually need to dispose of?

Used fuel rods are not waste, they can be reprocessed to recover usable fuel. They will contain varying amounts of uranium and plutonium isotopes as well as trans uranic elements that are all fissionable with appropriate reactor physics. The fission products are often highly active but have short half lives so they can be allowed to decay.

The reactors in use today were generally designed to produce weapons grade plutonium 239 which requires a fairly short burn up time of around 3 months otherwise there are too many other plutonium isotopes present which tend to cause the weapons to fizzle. Low enriched uranium tended to be used as the fuel rods would be exchanged on a fairly short cycle. Some reactor designs such as the UK Magnox allowed online exchange of fuel rods. One of the key anti proliferation actions is to ensure that the fuel is kept in the reactor for long enough  to ‘spoil’ the plutonium.

If a higher enriched uranium is used a much longer burn up time is possible which improves the uptime and efficiency of the reactor, hence the op regarding HALEU for modern reactor designs.

Hello Roger:-

This brings up the next big question - The need to replace the HALEU fuel rods. 

Do you happen to know how long the HALEU fuel rods are expected to last, before they need to be replaced in the SMR?

Peter Brooks

Palm Bay