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The futility of believing the description of a fault.

I was kicking myself today.

I had a call to attend an office light in an ex-offender hostel building. Been there before, no problems, other than attentive 'inmates'.

It was a fluorescent light that was not working. The description was "the circuit breaker (rcbo) trips when this light is turned on".

OK. Try it, reset the rcbo, turn on the light, and after 5 seconds, the breaker would trip. What was unusual, was that the RCBO was marked as 'Heating'.

I completely missed this first clue.

Take the fitting apart, tested between L+E, sure enough it was off. 2nd fail there.

It was an old fitting, so I put up a new LED strip light. In doing so, I noticed a small spark when touching 2 of the 3 neutral cables. Strange, it must be a shared neutral, test it, and yes, one of the neutrals is live. OK, back to the board, and turn off the various light circuits, to find which one was making the neutral live. 

Back to basics now, started testing, and found there is no continuity from the board to the fitting. Switch off, and one wire was hanging out of the switch. 

Refix that, put it all back together, and find I'd been working on a live circuit.

The RCBO that was tripping was an old heating system that wasnt used, no idea why it tripped, that can be traced another day.


I was so peed off that I'd made such silly stupid mistakes. If an apprentice did that I would go mad, but, I think I may be getting sloppy, and needed this kick up the ***.

 Mitigating, was the staff saying that CB trips when the light is on (it did, but it wasnt related!), having to work in a cramped office with some slightly dodgy people around, and just assuming that a light is not working, as, I get maybe 5 a month of exactly the same thing where a light has failed.

Be careful, dont assume, and do the correct proof of dead tests.

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  • While I have been misled many times over a problem I have only had one memorable near miss that I know about.


    I was disconnecting the lights on one gang of a two gang switch, only one lighting circuit and the fuse is in my pocket, noticed a separate supply to each switch and thought no more about it. Tested dead on the supply to the switch  I am disconnecting. When finished the customer asked if I could replace the two gang switch with a  single gang, she did not have much money so I was trying to do the job as cheaply as possible. Being a bit anal about testing dead I tested the supply to the second gang, it was live. I still had the fuse in my pocket.


    The second  switch for the main room light had been wired from the RFC! 


    Now apart from testing dead religiously I also wave a volt stick around as a further backup, I was going to say backstop but I may get reported. 


    Further to the post about a  death  from a non bonded installation, for a long time I have not touched any metal work in an installation I am unfamiliar with unless I have tested it. 


    I have found that as I have got older I have become far far more cautious and risk adverse, I probably needed to as at 18 I found myself sitting on a 4" RSJ over a 80 ft drop tying  a sling onto the RSJ and then pulling up a chain block and attaching it to the sling, no safety equipment, not even toe protectors! I thought nothing of it at the time.

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  • While I have been misled many times over a problem I have only had one memorable near miss that I know about.


    I was disconnecting the lights on one gang of a two gang switch, only one lighting circuit and the fuse is in my pocket, noticed a separate supply to each switch and thought no more about it. Tested dead on the supply to the switch  I am disconnecting. When finished the customer asked if I could replace the two gang switch with a  single gang, she did not have much money so I was trying to do the job as cheaply as possible. Being a bit anal about testing dead I tested the supply to the second gang, it was live. I still had the fuse in my pocket.


    The second  switch for the main room light had been wired from the RFC! 


    Now apart from testing dead religiously I also wave a volt stick around as a further backup, I was going to say backstop but I may get reported. 


    Further to the post about a  death  from a non bonded installation, for a long time I have not touched any metal work in an installation I am unfamiliar with unless I have tested it. 


    I have found that as I have got older I have become far far more cautious and risk adverse, I probably needed to as at 18 I found myself sitting on a 4" RSJ over a 80 ft drop tying  a sling onto the RSJ and then pulling up a chain block and attaching it to the sling, no safety equipment, not even toe protectors! I thought nothing of it at the time.

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