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Scope of BS 7671

Ziggie
reading the scope in the req book, I note that cats,dogs, birds, and in some definitions chickens are not covered by the regulations,


the definition of livestock from wiki is

Livestock is commonly defined as domesticated animalsraised in an agricultural setting to produce labor and commodities such as meat, eggs, milk, fur, leather, and wool. The term is sometimes used to refer solely to those that are bred for consumption, while other times it refers only to farmed ruminants, such as cattle and goats.[1]Horses are considered livestock in the United States.[2]The USDA uses livestock similarly to some uses of the term “red meat”, in which it specifically refers to all the mammal animals kept in this setting to be used as commodities. The USDA mentions pork, veal, beef, and lamb are all classified as livestock and all livestock is considered to be red meats.
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    What are you referring to? 705.513.2?


    OED: Livestock


    1. Domestic animals kept on a farm for use or profit; esp. cattle, sheep, and pigs.


    AFAIK, BS 7671 does not mention cats, dog, or chickens.
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    Hi Chris,


    most St of the section 131 refers to protection of people and livestcck. These therefore do not cover domestic dogs , cats and in some definition of livestock chickens.
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    but it does refer to property. Pets are property.
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    Livestock is defined as "domestic animals generally, animals of any kind kept or dealt in for profit." The Compact Edition of the Oxford English Dictionary. 1979. So the definition may also cover animals kept in a pet shop such as rabbits, dogs, snakes or reptiles etc. as well as animals found on a farm such as pigs, horses, cattle or hens etc.


    As the livestock will be kept in suitable livestock accommodation that must be electrically safe for its owners and keepers when feeding/watering or cleaning the areas, it must automatically, by extension, be safe for the livestock as well.


    Some exotic pets at the pet shops are very expensive, such as reptiles or exotic birds. You wouldn't want them to be electrocuted or burnt by a dangerous electric light or heater as that would cause a large financial loss to the seller. Also some rare or popular breeds of dog and cat are very valuable, so their kennels/cattery must be safe and secure.


    Z.


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    I agree under the law pets are property. Section 131.2.1 and following sections state persons and livestock shall be protected. Nothing about property. 


    Your correct that that you could amend his to persons, livestock and property ..... but doesn't seem right that the inanimate objects are included?


    i will cancel my pet insurance and they are clearly covered by my contents insurance and I have new for old cover.?
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    Zoomup:

    Livestock is defined as "domestic animals generally, animals of any kind kept or dealt in for profit." The Compact Edition of the Oxford English Dictionary. 1979. So the definition may also cover animals kept in a pet shop such as rabbits, dogs, snakes or reptiles etc. as well as animals found on a farm such as pigs, horses, cattle or hens etc.




    I agree . The definition does not cover domestic pets nor other people's cats , dogs. I know they are covered in law. I read in wiki that horses are covered in the USA. 


     

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    Since there are many definitions of livestock, I research the legal definition

     

    livestock


    1 any creature kept for the production of food, wool,skins or fur or for the purpose of its use in thefarming of land or the carrying on of any agriculturalactivity: Agricultural Holdings Act 1986.
    2 cattle, horses, asses, mules, hinnies, sheep, pigs,goats and poultry and deer not in the wild state forthe purpose of the legislation relating to liability foranimals. Scots law has similar statutory provisions.

    Collins Dictionary of Law Copyright W.J. Stewart, 2006
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    Chapter 13 contains the fundamental principles of BS7671.


    If you do not understand the implications of the text in 131.1, you will struggle to apply the requirements of BS7671.


    So read 110.1.1 then re-read 131.1


    If the penny has not then dropped you should read the front blue cover of BS7671 where it is printed in big black bold text


    "Requirements for Electrical Installations"
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    If I hold electrical stock like sockets, cable and lamps it is stock related to my business.


    If I hold living things as stock, it is livestock. (Living stock, stock that is alive).


    Z.


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    1. The definition of livestock given in Section 8(1) of the Act applies to animals being kept for the production of food, wool, skin or fur on agricultural land. Ministers may, by order, extend this definition and this has been done in the Welfare of Livestock (Deer) Order 1980 (see section 2(b) of this summary). The definition includes cattles, horses kept for meat, sheep, goats, pigs, poultry and other species, such as rabbits, mink, fox and deer. It also applies to a horse or a dog when used in the farming of land. As a guide to the application of this definition, rabbits kept for commercial production of food or fur are livestock, but pet rabbits are not, even when kept on a farm and neither are ornamental duck, nor pheasants reared for sport.

    http://adlib.everysite.co.uk/adlib/defra/content.aspx?id=000HK277ZX.0BP1NCQ892S

    http://adlib.everysite.co.uk/adlib/defra/content.aspx?id=000HK277ZX.0BPDL2NIM8WZW



    Z.

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