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Recommended checks before CU change

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As most of you know I’ve only been qualified for just over a year and I’ve got a quote to do for a cu upgrade.


I know I’m nowhere experienced enough to do EICR’s yet, but what would you guys recommend I check/test before doing the cu upgrade and should I do these checks/tests at the quote stage?
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  • Fitzy71:




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    Fitzy71:

    When these boards were installed, would the neutrals be in the same numerical order as the fuses are laid out, or was it just hit & miss in those days?




    The neutrals should be in the correct order relating to the lives, BUT very often are not. If the whole T&E cable can be seen than identification is easy, but if just singles appear that can create i/d problems. The different cable sizes can also help to identify likely suspects. I have been known to turn off and double check disconnection, lock off and temporarily connect a 9 Volt smoke alarm battery to a circuit and test at the consumer unit with a Volt meter to identify cables. All loads must be disconnected of course or they will just short out the battery.


    Z.


     




    Am I right in my thinking that the ring final/radial circuits might be in imperial sizes and the cpc could be 1mm2 instead of 1.5mm2?


     




    If ring finals are in imperial sizes they are likely to be stranded copper or even tinned copper. Seven strands for imperial ring circuit live and neutral cables and three strands for the associated C.P.C.s. That would be 7/.029 inch size I believe for the live conductors.


    Original 2.5mm2 twin and earth cable with one solid live conductor and one solid neutral conductor  had 1.0mm2 C.P.C.s. and they were easily broken or damaged.


    Here are some date "milestones" relating to old cables etc.

    http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Dating_Old_Electrics

    Z.

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  • Fitzy71:




    Zoomup:




    Fitzy71:

    When these boards were installed, would the neutrals be in the same numerical order as the fuses are laid out, or was it just hit & miss in those days?




    The neutrals should be in the correct order relating to the lives, BUT very often are not. If the whole T&E cable can be seen than identification is easy, but if just singles appear that can create i/d problems. The different cable sizes can also help to identify likely suspects. I have been known to turn off and double check disconnection, lock off and temporarily connect a 9 Volt smoke alarm battery to a circuit and test at the consumer unit with a Volt meter to identify cables. All loads must be disconnected of course or they will just short out the battery.


    Z.


     




    Am I right in my thinking that the ring final/radial circuits might be in imperial sizes and the cpc could be 1mm2 instead of 1.5mm2?


     




    If ring finals are in imperial sizes they are likely to be stranded copper or even tinned copper. Seven strands for imperial ring circuit live and neutral cables and three strands for the associated C.P.C.s. That would be 7/.029 inch size I believe for the live conductors.


    Original 2.5mm2 twin and earth cable with one solid live conductor and one solid neutral conductor  had 1.0mm2 C.P.C.s. and they were easily broken or damaged.


    Here are some date "milestones" relating to old cables etc.

    http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Dating_Old_Electrics

    Z.

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