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Intumescent/non-combustible sleeving/ducting in timber-framed buildings.

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PE magazine have run the article 'Wiring Timber-Frame Buildings' (a typical construction example shown in the attachment), which seems similar to those alluded to by ES1st (in their BP Guide 5, Fire Safety).


When installing wall fans in timber-framed buildings, one option is to use intumescent sleeving (such as shown in the attachment) for flexible ducting (but seems quite expensive at approx £60 for a standard 100mm ducting up to 500mm). Another option is use non-combustible/metal ducting (as suggested in BPG5). However, does anyone know of a supplier for such metal ducting (fire rated or proven for such use)? When I ask wholesalers and fan manufacturers, they all seem bemused (with some saying they don't think anyone bothers to use them), and as yet a google search reveals little help.


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    AJJewsbury:




    I would have thought that by the time a room fire had become so intense that sparks or flames were being sucked into the extractor fan, the smoke alarms or fire alarms would have sounded and the fire would either have been put our with a fire extinguisher or the room door closed, area evacuated, and the fire and rescue people summoned.



    Building regs seem to have other ideas - hence the requirement for certain building elements to have a 60-, 90- or 120-minute fire resistance. Sticking a plastic "chimney" right through such an element I would have thought would compromise it quite significantly. Even without the fan running the duct will likely induce a chimney effect and draw hot products of combustion through quite effectively.


      - Andy.

     




    Perhaps with vertical air ducting, but a horizontal hole through a wall would act in a different way. That is what the illustration in Professional Electrician shows relating to an extractor fan, that the O.P. refers to.


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    AJJewsbury:




    I would have thought that by the time a room fire had become so intense that sparks or flames were being sucked into the extractor fan, the smoke alarms or fire alarms would have sounded and the fire would either have been put our with a fire extinguisher or the room door closed, area evacuated, and the fire and rescue people summoned.



    Building regs seem to have other ideas - hence the requirement for certain building elements to have a 60-, 90- or 120-minute fire resistance. Sticking a plastic "chimney" right through such an element I would have thought would compromise it quite significantly. Even without the fan running the duct will likely induce a chimney effect and draw hot products of combustion through quite effectively.


      - Andy.

     




    Perhaps with vertical air ducting, but a horizontal hole through a wall would act in a different way. That is what the illustration in Professional Electrician shows relating to an extractor fan, that the O.P. refers to.


    Z.

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