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VOLTAGE BETWEEN THE GENERAL MASS OF EARTH AND A PME NEUTRAL/EARTH

Other than under fault conditions or a small difference due to volt drop on a heavily loaded CNE cable can anyone explain why you may get a large potential difference (say 70V) between the general mass of earth and the MET on a an installation with a PME earthing system?


I have not seen this myself. If this does occur how rare or frequent might this circumstance occur?


If this potential difference does occur what sort of duration might this persist for?


Although a DNO may switch occasionally the HV ring for fault or maintenance works transformer neutrals remain bolted to earth and if the HV/LV earths are combined then an earth resistance of sub 1 ohm (in UKPN land that is what they want) so how can the neutral voltage float up more than a couple of volts above the general mass of earth?
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  • John Peckham:

    Other than under fault conditions or a small difference due to volt drop on a heavily loaded CNE cable can anyone explain why you may get a large potential difference (say 70V) between the general mass of earth and the MET on a an installation with a PME earthing system?


    I have not seen this myself. If this does occur how rare or frequent might this circumstance occur?


    If this potential difference does occur what sort of duration might this persist for?


    Although a DNO may switch occasionally the HV ring for fault or maintenance works transformer neutrals remain bolted to earth and if the HV/LV earths are combined then an earth resistance of sub 1 ohm (in UKPN land that is what they want) so how can the neutral voltage float up more than a couple of volts above the general mass of earth?




    The reasons I can think of include:


    • Fault on the HV network

    • Fault transferred from another HV network

    • Switching impulses

    • Lightning strike

    • Fault in another installation, fault in PEN conductor, or in the PEN conductor to another installation

    • PME earth rod deterioration



     

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  • John Peckham:

    Other than under fault conditions or a small difference due to volt drop on a heavily loaded CNE cable can anyone explain why you may get a large potential difference (say 70V) between the general mass of earth and the MET on a an installation with a PME earthing system?


    I have not seen this myself. If this does occur how rare or frequent might this circumstance occur?


    If this potential difference does occur what sort of duration might this persist for?


    Although a DNO may switch occasionally the HV ring for fault or maintenance works transformer neutrals remain bolted to earth and if the HV/LV earths are combined then an earth resistance of sub 1 ohm (in UKPN land that is what they want) so how can the neutral voltage float up more than a couple of volts above the general mass of earth?




    The reasons I can think of include:


    • Fault on the HV network

    • Fault transferred from another HV network

    • Switching impulses

    • Lightning strike

    • Fault in another installation, fault in PEN conductor, or in the PEN conductor to another installation

    • PME earth rod deterioration



     

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