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Tradesmen Fined for............

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dangerous Electrical Work.


https://professional-electrician.com/news/tradesmen-fined-for-dangerous-electrical-work/



Z.
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    Its a shame the law has no ability to restrict them from trading or limit them to certain areas until retrained.
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    Well actually, at least  if it gets to a county court and not just magistrates, then such a condition might be applied in the form of an injunction

    " a legal and equitable remedy in the form of a special court order that compels a party to do or refrain from specific acts "

    (and actually magistrates sometimes use injunctions to for example prevent drunk and disorderly from visiting or buying alcohol, or other bad behaviour restrictions)

    So you could have an injunction requesting someone desists from paid electrical work until completing some specific action

    e,g, some sort of course of education. I've never heard of it mind you in cases like this.
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    The courts will place such restrictions on people who have been undertaking gas work without qualifications and registration.


    Andy
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    Reads to me as if using the NICEIC logo was the main issue. Shoddy and dangerous workmanship, what’s that got to do with the case?

    Would the case have even got to court if the evidence had relied solely on the poor workmanship? I very much doubt it.

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    You’ve hit the nail on the head.
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    Tony S:
    ...Would the case have even got to court if the evidence had relied solely on the poor workmanship? I very much doubt it.

     




    1 Good question. Does anyone know?


    2 The article stated they carried out a banned practice. So what could that banned practice be?


    3 argument has been made elsewhere for electricians to be licenced. Given it was an electrician that carried out all or some of the electrical work, doesn't this show how licensing is pointless: you can be both qualified and dangerous. Better would be mandatory registration to a scheme for every single electrician, not just the organisation they work for, so each electricians work is vetted. So, make it illegal to carry out electrical work unless you're registered, but still allow homeowners to do their own work so we can go in and rectify it.

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    The mind boggles at what a "banned practice" is supposed to be.  I wasn't aware that "misleading actions" was a criminal offence (stage magicians beware).  And as for "professional diligence", isn't that a good thing?


    Unfortunately, every article I can find uses exactly the same wording, rather than stating what the actual offences were.
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    Tony S:
    Reads to me as if using the NICEIC logo was the main issue. Shoddy and dangerous workmanship, what’s that got to do with the case?

    Would the case have even got to court if the evidence had relied solely on the poor workmanship? I very much doubt it.

     




    Who knows - that would have been up to the enforcement agency.


    One issue was the false claim to be NICEIC registered; the other was apparently professional diligence, which does mean that workmanship must be to a reasonable standard. Due diligence does not exclude mistakes, but it seems that this installation was simply dangerous - the article mentions a fire and what sounds like a C1 - so I imagine that the threshold for prosecution in terms of skill and workmanship is a high one.


    Injunctions have nothing to do with it.

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    Better would be mandatory registration to a scheme for every single electrician, not just the organisation they work for, so each electricians work is vetted. So, make it illegal to carry out electrical work unless you're registered, but still allow homeowners to do their own work so we can go in and rectify it.



     




    That wouldn’t go down well with industrial electricians or other branches of the trade.

    Schemes aren’t the be all and end all, especially since the advent of “domestic installers”.

     

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    There was guy who was repeatedly told to stop working illegally as a gas fitter a few miles away from where I live, it took a court order with the threat of prison to stop him and that was illegal, so how it pans out with electrical work which he could do legally must be complicated.


    Andy 
     

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