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GRENFELL TOWER FIRE

The cladding was not fireproof but just fire resistant and the mistake was that the building regulations did not spot the difference quickly enough.  The survivors are looking for someone to blame but this is not appropriate as it was a mistake by the authorities not the design engineers..

BUT more importantly what do we do about the other buildings that are at risk; to avoid another disaster?

Well, the fire fighters problem was that they could not get up above the fire and douse it or rescue the residence in the upper floors.

SO priority must be to remove the cladding on the tall tower blocks first and at the same time arrange for roof access for all residents in the case of fires.  Once the roof is a secure place then crane helicopters can be used to evacuate any residents that are unable to escape downwards due to the fire. 

In my book, the loss of life at Grenfell would have been minimal if the roof had been equipped with a secure area, i.e a fireproof [asbestos cement clad] container on its roof.
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  • It depends how close you can park, and how much force you dare hit the building with - a forest fire no-one cares if you knock over a burning tree, not so sure that is true with a building that may still have people in it, that needs to be assessed before firing willy nilly.


    Some UK fire engines do have permanent nozzles that work rather like a cannon - its not a new idea, some of the the the old Dennis "Simonitor" models we had for Civil defence were equipped  such a feature, and the more modern engines that have it take it to a new level with a camera on a 'stinger' boom. example  Such things are very effective in some cases. However there are other cases where it is not really the best thing to use, and the majority of tenders are not used this way.


    A modern fire  engine is a complex thing with some tonnes of water, foam mix and much portable kit on board, for fighting all sorts of fires in different situations and at full pump the on-board water supply is short lived, so connecting to a water source almost immediately on arrival is pretty much essential anyway.

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  • It depends how close you can park, and how much force you dare hit the building with - a forest fire no-one cares if you knock over a burning tree, not so sure that is true with a building that may still have people in it, that needs to be assessed before firing willy nilly.


    Some UK fire engines do have permanent nozzles that work rather like a cannon - its not a new idea, some of the the the old Dennis "Simonitor" models we had for Civil defence were equipped  such a feature, and the more modern engines that have it take it to a new level with a camera on a 'stinger' boom. example  Such things are very effective in some cases. However there are other cases where it is not really the best thing to use, and the majority of tenders are not used this way.


    A modern fire  engine is a complex thing with some tonnes of water, foam mix and much portable kit on board, for fighting all sorts of fires in different situations and at full pump the on-board water supply is short lived, so connecting to a water source almost immediately on arrival is pretty much essential anyway.

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