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New Type Lamp holder.

Mornin' all, on this bright and breezy morning,


here in the backwoods where I live, I come across lots of old electrical stuff. But yesterday I came upon something very new that I have never seen before. I had to remove a ceiling lighting pendant set in a kitchen of a new house to fit the customer's new light fitting (luminaire). The pendant set comprised a circular round white ceiling rose, a short length of white two core flex, and a lamp holder. This was no ordinary lamp holder such as a B.C. or E.S. type. It was a GU10 type. I have never come across a GU10 lamp holder in a pendant set before. The lamp holder had a special L.E.D. lamp fitted with a GU10 cap, but was like a traditional G.L.S. type lamp in style to give a good all round spread of light output.


The benefits I can see are:


 1. Only energy efficient lamps can be fitted.


2. The lamp holder will prevent inadvertent touching of live parts.


The disadvantage is that now a new line of GU10 lamps has to be made and stocked, suited to pendant use.


Waddaufink?


Z.
  • Got a photo??


    Was it something like this :-

    f8fd003d1961b2ef2daaf85be9283a8d-huge-gu10-4w-led-lamp-in-tube-form-9646003-31.jpg

    https://www.lights.co.uk/gu10-4w-led-lamp-in-tube-form.html


  • Hello Crossy,


     the lamp was a full sized pear shaped G.L.S. type. Not a smaller version. It was a modern L.E.D. lamp. It had a GU10 cap.


    Z.

  • They must be pretty new as I have struggled to find them. Here is a link to the lamps. They are expensive.

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TP24-8514-9W-frosted-GLS-LED-light-bulb-warm-white-1000-lumens-L1-GU10-cap-X2/264216422961?epid=1857791820&hash=item3d8486aa31:g:wAgAAOSwTEZcUb3T&frcectupt=true


    Z.
  • Another image with a TP24 reference.


    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TP24-L1-8514-Low-Energy-80-Saving-9w-High-Quality-Bulb-L1-GU10-End-Cap/254177486527?hash=item3b2e28a6bf:g:dJsAAOSwey5cmVZi&frcectupt=true


    "Just moved in to a new build house and these are fitted throughout the house. Have replaced these with our own choice of light fittings and these are now surplus to requirements. These are the latest high tech top quality low energy lamp bulbs specified in new build homes and come complete with the dedicated bulb holders. They have barely been switched on and new they cost over £5 each plus the lampholders. Grab a bargain."


    Z.
  • Presumably it’s not attractive or particularly practical as your customer has already paid you to replace it.


    How many of those dedicated low energy pendants that had to be installed a few years ago to meet the requirements of the building regulations in new build homes are still in use and haven’t been replaced with standard BC pendants or decorative fittings?


    Unless it has some real outstanding benefits it’s another idea that won’t go far.


    Andy
  • I quite like the idea of new builds having lamp fittings which can use only low energy lamps. However, I note that in the eBay example, the lamp holders are marked for self-ballasted CFL only, max 25 W. There appears to be nothing to stop a householder fitting higher powered halogen lamps.


    I converted to CFLs some years ago, but I didn't notice a significant drop in energy consumption. Given the price of LED lamps, I shall replace them only when they approach the end of their useful life.
  • These were fitted to my now ex's housing association newbuild in 2010, ostensibly to comply with part L1 of the building regs. We removed them forthwith as the lamps were so danged expensive. The other alternative I've seen where a pendant is required but must comply with L1, is a large lampholder for a PL lamp, with electronic control gear in the ceiling rose. Both to me look kludgey, and restrict the householder in what they can do. Now that 'traditional' filament lamps are largely becoming unavailable, the necessity isn't there, imho
  • I've seen them a few times, we just swap them for std. 2 pin bayonet pendants, as standard GU10 lamps will not fit in due to the deep base.

    Another one we have is a 3 pin bayonet fitting. Only one block of flats I deal with has these.
    https://www.bltdirect.com/6-inch-pendant-lamp-holder-for-22mm-bc-3-pin


    Standard 2 pin bayonet lamps will not fit in the holders, even though at first it looks like they will - the pin locators are slighlty offset.

  • alanblaby:

    I've seen them a few times, we just swap them for std. 2 pin bayonet pendants, as standard GU10 lamps will not fit in due to the deep base.

    Another one we have is a 3 pin bayonet fitting. Only one block of flats I deal with has these.
    https://www.bltdirect.com/6-inch-pendant-lamp-holder-for-22mm-bc-3-pin


    Standard 2 pin bayonet lamps will not fit in the holders, even though at first it looks like they will - the pin locators are slighlty offset.




    Product Discontinued

    This item was discontinued on 11th July, 2017

  • Product Discontinued

    This item was discontinued on 11th July, 2017



    Yes, as they are such a terrible design, with zero stock of lamps locally unless you do mail order.