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Plastic clips/cleats

whjohnson
So, are plastic cable clips and cleats completed banned from use anywhere on an 18th ed installation now?

Do I have to chuck my stock away?

If still permissible to use, then where and when?

If not, how would one go about securing a run of NYY to a light fitting on the corner of a beautiful stone detached house without resorting to the use of steel conduit, galv cable tray secured with resin or expansion anchors//SWA and steel ty-wraps which I'm sure the customer would be delighted with?


The proposed cable will run from an existing light fitting over the front door so I guess it is part of an escape route too.


What were they thinking of when they got together to come up with this nonsense?

I suppose plastic wall plugs are out too! If so, what are the alternatives?


Anyone out there with a definitive answer? Or are we moribund in a world of ifs and maybes?
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    It's only a problem in places where if the supports failed and the cable fell it would then be an entangement or trip hazard. Clipped to a wall near  the bottom, or above ceiling joists, the plastic fittings are not a hazard.

    Metal P clips exist, and for the last word in cable support rubber cushioned metal clips   exist though are not cheap and  may be a bit overkill unless on-show.

    Plastic wall plugs do not seem to be an issue in walls, as the force is not in the pull out direction,  though the jury is out on some ceilings. Wall dog / concrete screws examples fit many places, as do the soft metal wall plugs. example of metal 'rawl plugs' 



    edit for your case of the NYY  black plastic dipped metal P clip  probably neatest solution, I'm hoping the price for one, is actually price per one box..
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    It's only a problem in places where if the supports failed and the cable fell it would then be an entangement or trip hazard. Clipped to a wall near  the bottom, or above ceiling joists, the plastic fittings are not a hazard.

    Metal P clips exist, and for the last word in cable support rubber cushioned metal clips   exist though are not cheap and  may be a bit overkill unless on-show.

    Plastic wall plugs do not seem to be an issue in walls, as the force is not in the pull out direction,  though the jury is out on some ceilings. Wall dog / concrete screws examples fit many places, as do the soft metal wall plugs. example of metal 'rawl plugs' 



    edit for your case of the NYY  black plastic dipped metal P clip  probably neatest solution, I'm hoping the price for one, is actually price per one box..
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