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"potentially dangerous" or improvement required re: missing covers on conduit inspection fittings

Taking in to account the guided definition of "potentially dangerous" and any IP rating compromise (and loss of mechanical protection):


If I proffered that missing covers/lids from a steel conduit inspection fittings was not worthy of being described as potentially dangerous, would you agree, or argue it was ?


Would you be persuaded one way or the other depending on the 'accessibility' factor ?


My take: if its out of the way from fingers etc, then i'd say not potentially dangerous. If it was readily accessible for touch/impact, then I would be thinking otherwise.


Reading back on some [I think] well known guidance regarding periodic inspections, there is a bit regarding where cable sheathing is not taken into an enclosure leaving the basic protected conductors exposed to touch; in some conditions it is considered as not "potentially dangerous" but only requiring "improvement" and from past threads this has provoked some interesting debate and opinions; is there a difference from these situations to the above missing lids question (or even indeed trunking lid missing or unused cable access holes in trunking) ?


Hope you are all keeping well and enjoying the 'new' forum ! :-)

Cheers

Habs
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  • Well i should have clarified that it [conduit] contained insulated singles and all in good order from when originally installed.


    @AJJ, I've been through that thought process too regarding IP.  :-)


    I think 'accessibility' (and then perhaps by who) is the factor that would sway most when looking at similar issues ... all other things being in decent order so to speak.


    Using professional judgement is an interesting one, @mapj; as in line up 10 professionals and see the variety of opinions unless there is some clear issue all agree on.  :-)


    Regards
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  • Well i should have clarified that it [conduit] contained insulated singles and all in good order from when originally installed.


    @AJJ, I've been through that thought process too regarding IP.  :-)


    I think 'accessibility' (and then perhaps by who) is the factor that would sway most when looking at similar issues ... all other things being in decent order so to speak.


    Using professional judgement is an interesting one, @mapj; as in line up 10 professionals and see the variety of opinions unless there is some clear issue all agree on.  :-)


    Regards
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