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Mixed Wiring

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We have been invited to tender for the rewire of lighting and power to a government building.
The single compartment trunkings carry recently installed ELV cabling consisting of fire alarm and general alarm cabling. We have been asked to replace the existing LV singles.
Existing services to the ceilings means there is no capacity left to install new containment and would almost be impossible to install.
To install the LV wiring would depart from BS7671 528.1 / 515.2 / 528.3 along with BS5839 and BS8519
7671 states ‘Any intended departure from these Parts requires special consideration by the designer of the installation and shall be recorded on the appropriate electrical certification specified in Part 6. The resulting degree of safety of the installation shall be not less than that obtained by compliance with the Regulations.’
Since there is no design or intervention by any electrical consultants I would assume we become the designers simply by installing the cables into the trunkings and terminating into the various items of equipment.
As a result I wouldn’t say that the resulting degree of safety of the installation shall be not less than that obtained by compliance with the Regulations is met, as stated above.
Is just merely noting the departure on the EIC sufficient or should I be looking for some form of written agreement that the installation will not comply with current standards.

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  • MHRestorations:

    . . . if Fire alarm, it will likely be FP200 or equivalent and thus already insulated to the required standards to share the trunking?




    I agree that FP200 will be rated sufficiently, but it will still be a breach of BS5839. Aside from the technical breach, it may also be a breach of the Contract Conditions (which we have not seen), and the company ordering the works may be entitled to withhold payment until it is rectified. 


    Regards,


    Alan. 

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  • MHRestorations:

    . . . if Fire alarm, it will likely be FP200 or equivalent and thus already insulated to the required standards to share the trunking?




    I agree that FP200 will be rated sufficiently, but it will still be a breach of BS5839. Aside from the technical breach, it may also be a breach of the Contract Conditions (which we have not seen), and the company ordering the works may be entitled to withhold payment until it is rectified. 


    Regards,


    Alan. 

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