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Electric Shock from Old P.I.R. Floodlight.

Today I was asked to investigate why an old outside P.I.R. tungsten halogen floodlight did not work. It had been installed on a 70s holiday chalet. The owner had installed it himself and admitted that he did not know much about electrics. I used my aluminium ladder to access it, the ladder has plastic feet and it stood on a concrete surface. When I went up to the floodlight my Voltstick suggested that the supply cable was dead. But when I touched the fitting I got a shock, this before I had removed the terminal box  cover. Anyway, after turning off at the consumer unit I noticed that the owner had fitted the live supply wire into the earth terminal. That was the cause of the shock I imagined. Anyway I removed the old floodlight and was going to fit a new L.E.D. one. I tested at the supply cable but there was no supply. All M.C.B.s were on and the R.C.D. was on as well. So how did I get a shock if the supply cable was dead? A charged capacitor perhaps? Or induced Voltage? No switch was found that controlled this cable.


I got a reading of about 2 Volts from the main P.M.E. earth terminal and a temporary earth rod bashed into the lawn.


There are three 11kV overheads about 30 metres away from this chalet.


Any ideas please?


Z.
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  • How many times over the years have you found a fluorescent light batten fitting with the choc block terminals held in place by the central connection being made onto a tab of the steel enclosure to hold it in place and provide an earth terminal with this terminal actually having been used as a live terminal for the circuit conductors?


    I have found that arrangement many times, well into double figures.


    These days I use a fibreglass ladder, but when I did or if I do use an aluminium ladder I use a two pole voltage tester between the fitting and the ladder.


    One particular occasion comes to mind, a damp evening as it was getting dark, I put an aluminium ladder up the wall and tested between it and a light fitting that was not working,the tester showed full mains voltage and I packed up and went home saying I will come back in day light when it’s not raining.


    Those bits of plastic on the ends of a ladder are not electrical insulators and should not be considered as such.


    Andy Betteridge
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  • How many times over the years have you found a fluorescent light batten fitting with the choc block terminals held in place by the central connection being made onto a tab of the steel enclosure to hold it in place and provide an earth terminal with this terminal actually having been used as a live terminal for the circuit conductors?


    I have found that arrangement many times, well into double figures.


    These days I use a fibreglass ladder, but when I did or if I do use an aluminium ladder I use a two pole voltage tester between the fitting and the ladder.


    One particular occasion comes to mind, a damp evening as it was getting dark, I put an aluminium ladder up the wall and tested between it and a light fitting that was not working,the tester showed full mains voltage and I packed up and went home saying I will come back in day light when it’s not raining.


    Those bits of plastic on the ends of a ladder are not electrical insulators and should not be considered as such.


    Andy Betteridge
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