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European double sockets

HI All


1) Does anyone know if a European double socket face plate fits a standard UK double socket back box?

2) I assume these will need extra deep back boxes if they do?

3) I am getting sent over to Germany (Berlin) soon to do some office type electrical install work because it seems that all of the trades are off on holiday or something? Does anyone on the forum know if the trades all go off in Germany soon or if perhaps this is a local supply problem where all of the German staff for their usual electrical installer company are off on holiday. It is interesting that they cannot get local companies to do the office fit out and they're definitely paying us over the odds to do the work instead; this is a multinational company that we often do work for and the purchase order is from our usual lot here in the UK, so no worries with payment. 

4) Will the wholesalers sell anything to anyone?


Kind Regards


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  • The back box is a 'wanddose'  = pronounced like VanDozer meaning wall (wand)  box(dose)

    Stecker is plug, Steckdose is wall socket or just socket.


    Strom is current, or in site slang Saft == juice (it is the same - Orangensaft is orange juice you drink, 'kein saft' == "no juice" means there is no power )


    The circular holes are indeed still common though for double sockets you will also now encounter a shape that is the over lap of 2 circles - not a fig of 8, but more like a routed slot.
    heir ist     some example 

    To explain the types- Hohlwand == hollow wall is plaster board walls

    .Doppel - is double

    Schalter is switch

    and anything with

    Feucht (prononunce like foykht ) is for damp atmospheres, kitchens cellars and  baths.


    I suspect the trade suppliers expect you to open an account, the likes of Bauhaus, (the website linked above), are more like Wickes or B and Q, and will sell to anyone with a valid bank card or money, useful if you get stuck and need a small thing in a hurry. Get the locals to pre-order the big stuff.


    Some cautions, you will not need T and E or earth sleeving, all final circuit cables have the CPC the same size as the live, and you will see a lot more 3 phase (drei fase , pronounced like dry fa-ah-ser ) in domestic than you would here. 3 phases at 16A each is a typical cooker circuit. Lights and power are often mixed, but more circuits, often 16A RCBO radials  and singles and flexiconduit are common in masonary.


    I cannot comment on current working practices, but back in the early 2000s in Berlin, it all started early in the morning and was pretty fast moving . Equally they would only work agreed hours and then drop everything and go home.


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  • The back box is a 'wanddose'  = pronounced like VanDozer meaning wall (wand)  box(dose)

    Stecker is plug, Steckdose is wall socket or just socket.


    Strom is current, or in site slang Saft == juice (it is the same - Orangensaft is orange juice you drink, 'kein saft' == "no juice" means there is no power )


    The circular holes are indeed still common though for double sockets you will also now encounter a shape that is the over lap of 2 circles - not a fig of 8, but more like a routed slot.
    heir ist     some example 

    To explain the types- Hohlwand == hollow wall is plaster board walls

    .Doppel - is double

    Schalter is switch

    and anything with

    Feucht (prononunce like foykht ) is for damp atmospheres, kitchens cellars and  baths.


    I suspect the trade suppliers expect you to open an account, the likes of Bauhaus, (the website linked above), are more like Wickes or B and Q, and will sell to anyone with a valid bank card or money, useful if you get stuck and need a small thing in a hurry. Get the locals to pre-order the big stuff.


    Some cautions, you will not need T and E or earth sleeving, all final circuit cables have the CPC the same size as the live, and you will see a lot more 3 phase (drei fase , pronounced like dry fa-ah-ser ) in domestic than you would here. 3 phases at 16A each is a typical cooker circuit. Lights and power are often mixed, but more circuits, often 16A RCBO radials  and singles and flexiconduit are common in masonary.


    I cannot comment on current working practices, but back in the early 2000s in Berlin, it all started early in the morning and was pretty fast moving . Equally they would only work agreed hours and then drop everything and go home.


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