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Passing cables through joists

I know that this has been discussed in the old forum, but I have been pondering the subject over the past couple of days.


I am more than happy to respect the exclusion zones at the ends and in the middle of joists (Electrician's Guide to the Building Regulations); but it seems odd that cables which are passed through joists must go through notches in the zone between 0.07 - 0.25 times the span, and holes in the 0.25 - 0.40 zone.


In essence, despite the removal of a substantial amount of material, the upper joist in my diagram is acceptable, but the 16 mm hole in the lower one is not.

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It seems to me that any risk to the cable is much lower in holes than notches; and of course, if plumbers have already occupied the notch zone, there isn't much choice.


In order to remove and replace cablies descending to sockets below, I need to lift the second board in from the wall; but it would be a real PITA to have to lift another board (especially if tongue and groove) closer to the centre of the room particularly because there isn't much working space unless the furniture is removed.


I have no intention of placing holes below notches, but will the house fall down if I don't follow the Guide? ?
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  • davezawadi:

    Next time you have one handy get a scaffold board and support it either end on a couple of bricks. Stand in the middle and note the deflection (several inches). The board does not break but is reasonably close.




    I am just about to finish off trimming a yew hedge. I shall be standing on a couple of 2.4 m long boards between trestles. The boards are 45 mm x 200 mm, so a bit like joists on their sides. Even with 80+ kg of me (plus machinery) in the middle, deflection is minimal.

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  • davezawadi:

    Next time you have one handy get a scaffold board and support it either end on a couple of bricks. Stand in the middle and note the deflection (several inches). The board does not break but is reasonably close.




    I am just about to finish off trimming a yew hedge. I shall be standing on a couple of 2.4 m long boards between trestles. The boards are 45 mm x 200 mm, so a bit like joists on their sides. Even with 80+ kg of me (plus machinery) in the middle, deflection is minimal.

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