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Passing cables through joists

I know that this has been discussed in the old forum, but I have been pondering the subject over the past couple of days.


I am more than happy to respect the exclusion zones at the ends and in the middle of joists (Electrician's Guide to the Building Regulations); but it seems odd that cables which are passed through joists must go through notches in the zone between 0.07 - 0.25 times the span, and holes in the 0.25 - 0.40 zone.


In essence, despite the removal of a substantial amount of material, the upper joist in my diagram is acceptable, but the 16 mm hole in the lower one is not.

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It seems to me that any risk to the cable is much lower in holes than notches; and of course, if plumbers have already occupied the notch zone, there isn't much choice.


In order to remove and replace cablies descending to sockets below, I need to lift the second board in from the wall; but it would be a real PITA to have to lift another board (especially if tongue and groove) closer to the centre of the room particularly because there isn't much working space unless the furniture is removed.


I have no intention of placing holes below notches, but will the house fall down if I don't follow the Guide? ?
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  • Sparkingchip:

    An electrician or a plumber who smashes the bridging or strutting out from between the joists to install fan ducting and waste pipes will potentially damage the floor structure far more than the guy who drilled the 16 mm hole in what is apparently the wrong place.




    So when you drill your holes in the kitchen ceiling for downlighters in the centre line, just hope that you miss the cross-bracing.


    No, taking out one is not satisfactory, 'cos the whole system relies on there being a continuous row.


    And no, you cannot move them, although in principle, I don't see why you shouldn't straddle the hole with a pair of cross braces on either side of the lamp.

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  • Sparkingchip:

    An electrician or a plumber who smashes the bridging or strutting out from between the joists to install fan ducting and waste pipes will potentially damage the floor structure far more than the guy who drilled the 16 mm hole in what is apparently the wrong place.




    So when you drill your holes in the kitchen ceiling for downlighters in the centre line, just hope that you miss the cross-bracing.


    No, taking out one is not satisfactory, 'cos the whole system relies on there being a continuous row.


    And no, you cannot move them, although in principle, I don't see why you shouldn't straddle the hole with a pair of cross braces on either side of the lamp.

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