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Tricky PAT question

Hello everybody! I could use a bit of sage advice regarding PAT testing unusual items.


To give you a bit of background, I'm in a bit of a tricky spot because I just took over a role as a PAT tester and it came with two very smart testing devices which save the identification number, create a bar code and save the tests required for whatever item it is. Subsequently everyone in my company seems to think that all I have to do is type in a number and the test is automatic.


Unfortunately, the more items I test, the more I notice that the tests that have been inputted, are not anything I want to put my name/initials to. I mean, a few days ago I was prompted to complete a touch current test on a bog standard class I toaster. I've found; tests on leads that do not test for polarity, a test that checks IR at 500V and also checks leakage but nothing else, and it seems to have been standard to cobble together 4 and 5 pin plug and socket adapters for testing 35/63/125A cables using 3 pin plugs and sockets which connect to the PAT tester... d'oh! So it's taking me a lot longer to test things than my company expects. It's a bit of a nightmare if I'm honest as almost every test needs checking and most need reprogramming. 


To make the problem worse, it seems my bosses really trusted the person who was doing this before me and so every time I run into a problem or a test that doesn't work properly, sometimes in front of them, it's sort of taken as me being incompetent rather than the test being substandard in the first place. So, I can't really ask my colleagues for advice because it kind of works against me. So that's why I joined here and I'm asking you. Thank you for reading this far by the way. I'll get down to the real question now...


I test everything from museum exhibits and set for TV shows to your average kettles, toasters, microwaves and so on. But occasionally something comes up with a lot of exposed painted metal which is earthed using an earth nut. In this case it's a booth for a TV game show. How would one decide what a suitable resistance might be for such items during an earth bond test? Also what are the implications for Insulation resistance? You'd think it would fail because of the large amount of metal with no real insulation on it connected to the circuit. This has me beat! I have no idea what to do to test it properly.

If anybody out there has any advice I would really appreciate it.


Thanks


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  • Hi Legh, Mapj1 and Zs.


    Thanks so much for your replies.


    Legh, the actual circuit attached to this gameshow set is just a light bulb, it has about 4m of maybe 1mm cable and it tested as 0.9 ohms on the earth. Which is the number I went with in the end. I guess it's slightly reassuring that there's a fuse at one end and a filament at the other!  


    Mapj1 You're completely right, it is a lottery. Although I decided to start deleting and re-writing the programmes today and noticed the Seaward remembers regardless of whether tests have been edited or deleted so this could take a long time to sort out. I think whoever designed this gameshow booth was banking on the no credible fault could make it live thing, so you might be right there.  


    Zs.. lol tell me about it. I was testing 125A cables today... I know the "portable" in PAT went out with the bath water recently but surely there is a point where what is needed is initial verification and regular inspection and testing. All things considered though it's quite a fun job. Always challenging, if somewhat scary/frustrating/boring sometimes.


     Appreciate the help!


    Trig


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  • Hi Legh, Mapj1 and Zs.


    Thanks so much for your replies.


    Legh, the actual circuit attached to this gameshow set is just a light bulb, it has about 4m of maybe 1mm cable and it tested as 0.9 ohms on the earth. Which is the number I went with in the end. I guess it's slightly reassuring that there's a fuse at one end and a filament at the other!  


    Mapj1 You're completely right, it is a lottery. Although I decided to start deleting and re-writing the programmes today and noticed the Seaward remembers regardless of whether tests have been edited or deleted so this could take a long time to sort out. I think whoever designed this gameshow booth was banking on the no credible fault could make it live thing, so you might be right there.  


    Zs.. lol tell me about it. I was testing 125A cables today... I know the "portable" in PAT went out with the bath water recently but surely there is a point where what is needed is initial verification and regular inspection and testing. All things considered though it's quite a fun job. Always challenging, if somewhat scary/frustrating/boring sometimes.


     Appreciate the help!


    Trig


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