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Orange Alu Split Con

Martyn
Hi All, 


As per the title I need a 25m ish length of 25mm Orange Alu split con, cant seem to get it from the cable suppliers unless I order to be manufactured with crazy minimum order quantities.


Cant use standard Split con as it’s PVC and I need LSF for an escape route, cable forming part of a BNO replacing a degraded cotton service.


It’s only manufactured in 25 & 35mm apparently, could use either but prefer 25mm.


Anyone with a short length?


Cheers


Martyn
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    perspicacious:
    but a building network, by definition, isn't a consumer's installation.


    Where is this defined Andy?


    Regards


    BOD




    I'm working from the The Electricity Safety, Quality and Continuity Regulations which has the following as part of its definitions:



    “consumer” means any person supplied or entitled to be supplied by a supplier but in

    regulations 24, 25 and 26 shall not include, in respect of any supply to meet haulage or

    traction requirements, any person who is an operator of a network within the meaning of

    Part I of the Railways Act 1993(b);


    “consumer’s installation” means the electric lines situated upon the consumer’s side of the

    supply terminals together with any equipment permanently connected or intended to be

    permanently connected thereto on that side;


    “distributor” means a person who owns or operates a network, except for a network where

    that person is an operator of a network within the meaning of Part I of the Railways

    Act 1993;


    “supplier” means a person who contracts to supply electricity to consumers;





    As it's each flat occupier who will have a contract with their own chosen supplier (FlyByNight Energy or whatever) for the supply of electricity, and as the BNO doesn't have a contract or any other entitlement with any supplier for the supply of electricity, it doesn't (to me) seem to fit the definition of a "consumer". More likely it's just a type of "distributor".


    The prohibition on CNE in Regulation 8(4):



    A consumer shall not combine the neutral and protective functions in a single conductor

    in his consumer’s installation.



    only applies to consumers - not to distributors - as far as I can tell.


    As I said, for a new BNO, it's not going to make any difference since the DNO's rules will demand SNE nowadays anyway. But if you're in the situation of dealing with one of the "inherited" BNOs that was originally constructed to distribution standards with CNE throughout, it might be a significant difference.


    Of course there might be some other/later legislation that covers the use of CNE conductors that I'm not aware of...


      - Andy.

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    perspicacious:
    but a building network, by definition, isn't a consumer's installation.


    Where is this defined Andy?


    Regards


    BOD




    I'm working from the The Electricity Safety, Quality and Continuity Regulations which has the following as part of its definitions:



    “consumer” means any person supplied or entitled to be supplied by a supplier but in

    regulations 24, 25 and 26 shall not include, in respect of any supply to meet haulage or

    traction requirements, any person who is an operator of a network within the meaning of

    Part I of the Railways Act 1993(b);


    “consumer’s installation” means the electric lines situated upon the consumer’s side of the

    supply terminals together with any equipment permanently connected or intended to be

    permanently connected thereto on that side;


    “distributor” means a person who owns or operates a network, except for a network where

    that person is an operator of a network within the meaning of Part I of the Railways

    Act 1993;


    “supplier” means a person who contracts to supply electricity to consumers;





    As it's each flat occupier who will have a contract with their own chosen supplier (FlyByNight Energy or whatever) for the supply of electricity, and as the BNO doesn't have a contract or any other entitlement with any supplier for the supply of electricity, it doesn't (to me) seem to fit the definition of a "consumer". More likely it's just a type of "distributor".


    The prohibition on CNE in Regulation 8(4):



    A consumer shall not combine the neutral and protective functions in a single conductor

    in his consumer’s installation.



    only applies to consumers - not to distributors - as far as I can tell.


    As I said, for a new BNO, it's not going to make any difference since the DNO's rules will demand SNE nowadays anyway. But if you're in the situation of dealing with one of the "inherited" BNOs that was originally constructed to distribution standards with CNE throughout, it might be a significant difference.


    Of course there might be some other/later legislation that covers the use of CNE conductors that I'm not aware of...


      - Andy.

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