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I`ve been thinking

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OK the title might startle some who know me.

Ring Final rules.

What is the intention behind the rule "no more spurs than points on the ring".

I think most of us who have run rings would almost exclusively put every point on a ring and no spurs at all.

Spurs are then usually just additions.

One spur max per point.

One spur allowed at origin.

If I saw a ring with say 12 points on ring and one ring per point and say 1 point at origin that would be 12 on ring and 13 spurs that would not worry me.

In fact if I saw say 5 points at origin it would not worry me either.

If I saw 12 on ring each with one spur then 5 spurs at origin then 11 spurs on joints between points woul I worry?

No I would not although this "golden rule" would have been well and truly broken.

I think the rule intention was purely good housekeeping to keep us all on the straight and narrow.

In fact some on here have mentionded a ring in a loft with junction boxes dropped dow to spurs. Therefore all spurs and not on ring.

Note I did not pick the number of 12 points on ring for any reason, I could have picked 5 or 50 or 5000.
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    Lol.


    Back in the 1970’s I was using 110-volt tools on site using rather long extension leads and several people told me I wrong having the transformer by the socket then 110-volt extension leads, I should do it the other way around “because of the voltage drop “.


    I only scrapped that transformer earlier this year, it had only been used occasionally in my garage for quite a few years as the bottom was missing the off the case after years of being dragged around and it was standing on the exposed resin block that enclosed the actual transformer.


    I have taken a few computers out with it over the years, hence using the cooker or some other circuit without computers or the like supplied from them.


    I took the computers down in the offices of  Beazer Mercia, one of the house builders taken over by Persimmon, after being assured that it was safe to plug that transformer into a particular socket, I did ask!


    Whilst people worry about overloading socket ring circuits perhaps they should give more consideration to the variety of appliances that will be connected to the same circuit and provide a separate circuit in the garage if it is likely to be used for appliances that may cause issues when connected, such as a cheap arcy sparky chop-saw from a DIY shed.


    Andy Betteridge
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    Lol.


    Back in the 1970’s I was using 110-volt tools on site using rather long extension leads and several people told me I wrong having the transformer by the socket then 110-volt extension leads, I should do it the other way around “because of the voltage drop “.


    I only scrapped that transformer earlier this year, it had only been used occasionally in my garage for quite a few years as the bottom was missing the off the case after years of being dragged around and it was standing on the exposed resin block that enclosed the actual transformer.


    I have taken a few computers out with it over the years, hence using the cooker or some other circuit without computers or the like supplied from them.


    I took the computers down in the offices of  Beazer Mercia, one of the house builders taken over by Persimmon, after being assured that it was safe to plug that transformer into a particular socket, I did ask!


    Whilst people worry about overloading socket ring circuits perhaps they should give more consideration to the variety of appliances that will be connected to the same circuit and provide a separate circuit in the garage if it is likely to be used for appliances that may cause issues when connected, such as a cheap arcy sparky chop-saw from a DIY shed.


    Andy Betteridge
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