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The Downing Street problem

No, nothing to do with politics - just earthing and bonding - just recent events have perhaps given us an interesting example.


As I'm sure everyone has noticed of late, No.10 Downing Street has a nice electric lamp for its front door - supported by an arch from the iron railings. Similarly, immediately next door to the left (contrary to usual UK practice, designated No.11) also has lights fixed from the railings - two in this case, at least one of which appears to share the same railing system as No.10.


If pictures help: No.10 and No.11


For the sake of this discussion let's assume No.10 and No.11 have separate DNO supplies and the light fittings are all Class I.


If you had to do the design for feeding the lights outside either or both premises (and had no ill-intent to the occupants) what sort of earthing and bonding arrangements would you specify? (and would regulation 714.411.3.1.2 figure in your thinking?)


  - Andy.


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  • geoffsd:


    Isn't it just a fancy lamp post?




    No, it’s Clive.


    I visited Downing Street a few times before the gates went up, the last time was not long after I met my future wife, we just parked her Mini in Whitehall and walked in.


    I have been twice since the gates went up and you have to make an appointment, the last time I actually visited was as a registered helper of the Girl Guide Association and I stood by the door with the Girl Guides and their leaders wearing a Girl Guide baseball cap whilst a policeman took photos for us. After we got back out through the gates one of the dads announced he had left his bag behind and sure enough his rucksack was slap bang in the middle of Downing Street “being monitored”, the dads were more trouble during the day than their daughters!


    The idea that there may be a risk of electrocution due to how the lights are wired never entered my head.


     Andy B.


     

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  • geoffsd:


    Isn't it just a fancy lamp post?




    No, it’s Clive.


    I visited Downing Street a few times before the gates went up, the last time was not long after I met my future wife, we just parked her Mini in Whitehall and walked in.


    I have been twice since the gates went up and you have to make an appointment, the last time I actually visited was as a registered helper of the Girl Guide Association and I stood by the door with the Girl Guides and their leaders wearing a Girl Guide baseball cap whilst a policeman took photos for us. After we got back out through the gates one of the dads announced he had left his bag behind and sure enough his rucksack was slap bang in the middle of Downing Street “being monitored”, the dads were more trouble during the day than their daughters!


    The idea that there may be a risk of electrocution due to how the lights are wired never entered my head.


     Andy B.


     

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