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Shock Likelihood at Switch.

Mornin' All,


I have just inspected and tested a renovated  old flat's wiring. The original lighting wiring in places has no circuit protective conductor. The owner has installed metal plate light switches to two positions with wooden back boxes. At these two positions there is no circuit protective conductor. The flat has a new R.C.B.O. consumer unit and all other wiring is good.


I have recommended that the switches have a C.P.C. installed (difficult and disruptive) or be changed to all insulated types.


Just what is the shock risk at these two switch positions? What is the likelihood of the metal plates becoming live due to a fault? Has anyone every seen a metal plate switch break down so that the plates becomes live?


Thanks,


Z.

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  • At this stage of the proceedings M'lud Z offers this additional information in his "defence"..


    1. The new metal light switches were installed by the flat owner and examined behind by Z. There is no earth (C.P.C.) wire at their positions.


    2. The back boxes are old hard wooden types sunk into a brick wall ( in both cases).


    3. The cabling is imperial in manufacture and each conductor comprises three stands of tinned copper wire. Thus ensuring a good grip by the terminal screws.


    4. The conductors are positioned so that to come loose from the switch terminals they would have first to move backwards substantially, which space limitation prevents in the wooden back boxes. There is very little chance of a live conductor coming into contact with the metal switch plate.


    5. The flat is of Victorian construction on the first floor. The floors are made of wooden floor boards covered with new nylon carpets.


    6. There is are no exposed conductive parts near to the two light switches.


    7. The lighting circuit has 30mA R.C.B.O. protection.


    8. The flat owner has been told that an improvement is necessary and this has been confirmed in writing providing details.


    9. The flat is currently unoccupied.


    10. Permission of the flat owner will be required before the switches and wiring are worked on.


    11. Z is a very experienced qualified electrician and made his judgement of a C3 rating after many years of work in the electrical trade. He does not consider that the unearthed metal light switches are AT PRESENT sticks of dynamite with their fuses positioned next to an open log fire.


    Z rests his case.


    Z.




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  • At this stage of the proceedings M'lud Z offers this additional information in his "defence"..


    1. The new metal light switches were installed by the flat owner and examined behind by Z. There is no earth (C.P.C.) wire at their positions.


    2. The back boxes are old hard wooden types sunk into a brick wall ( in both cases).


    3. The cabling is imperial in manufacture and each conductor comprises three stands of tinned copper wire. Thus ensuring a good grip by the terminal screws.


    4. The conductors are positioned so that to come loose from the switch terminals they would have first to move backwards substantially, which space limitation prevents in the wooden back boxes. There is very little chance of a live conductor coming into contact with the metal switch plate.


    5. The flat is of Victorian construction on the first floor. The floors are made of wooden floor boards covered with new nylon carpets.


    6. There is are no exposed conductive parts near to the two light switches.


    7. The lighting circuit has 30mA R.C.B.O. protection.


    8. The flat owner has been told that an improvement is necessary and this has been confirmed in writing providing details.


    9. The flat is currently unoccupied.


    10. Permission of the flat owner will be required before the switches and wiring are worked on.


    11. Z is a very experienced qualified electrician and made his judgement of a C3 rating after many years of work in the electrical trade. He does not consider that the unearthed metal light switches are AT PRESENT sticks of dynamite with their fuses positioned next to an open log fire.


    Z rests his case.


    Z.




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