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Youtube learning

I sat through all 21 of a certain sparkys’ youtube videos on the 18th during the Christmas hols. Why? No life? Well actually I was interested in his delivery which seemed to go down well with many commentators. His pitch was clearly geared to the average spark and although I would contest some of his technical explanations, if the purpose was to assist guys with getting their head round the basics of 7671 then I think he has done a reasonably good job. All the videos are free so he is to be applauded for his altruism. Compare that to the cost of learning material from this blessed institution and my own dear accreditation body. Want to know more about SPDs? A snip at £285. What about a one day course on BS9999 at £425? Although that includes a buffet lunch! You could take three days off and be bored to death on one of my own 7671 courses for a mere £475 plus vat. Alternatively, keep your hard earned cash and indulge yourself in Youtube, you can always ask for clarification on this wonderful forum if you get stuck!
  • I follow a great many sparks on youtube. It's interesting watching the different methods and approaches taken. And with many of them the humour is an integral part, even with the legendary John Ward, whose humour is very dry... it's an essential part of the experience.


    A few favourites of mine are (in no particular order). The aforementioned John Ward, David Savery, Artisan Electrics, (Big clive of course although he does more electronics, he is an electrician) and CJR electrical. They provide a fairly wide range of attitudes to 'how we interpret the regs' (or just plain ignore them in some cases with clive, but he's scottish)


    I also follow many more european and american and aussie channels to see how stuff is done overseas. Also Kreosan but that's more 'how you don't do things in the former soviet union but somehow we're still alive'
  • There is some fun stuff out there - not just electricity. I have now learnt how to route circles in ply wood and had great fun making pulley wheels for a clothes dryer, that without the web I would never have done that way. I will get the sawdust out of the carpet before my wife gets back. Like many fora, some of it is very good and some is more pub banter grade, but even then there are hints and tips to be picked up.  At its best it is a great democratising force - After all we can now all watch lectures by Nobel Prize winners, and realise the prize is not normally for their presentation skills ?


    I think that training, rather like the formal publications of books or music,  where unofficial copies of many previously expensive works are in circulation, has also been rather upended by the web,  and it will be a while before we learn how to make the best of the new order. But it should indeed make it more accessible - you can see inside installations and watch the use of kit  the best equipped college would not have been able to arrange, and the best explanations and methods should circulate faster.

    Have you considered that you too could put your teaching material on-line, either open to all, or behind some paywall password on enrolment, and avoid all that note taking, and deliver the talks just once, and then keep replaying it to each new batch of recruits, all over the planet.
  • One of the well known contributors claimed if you insulation tested N to E and then L to E,it proved there was no short between L and N.Couldnt get my head round that one.

                                                                                                                                                                                                         Regards,Hz
  • As Doctor Mike will appreciate, there is a skill in evaluating evidence - what is there about this piece (on YouTube or elsewhere) which makes me rely upon it? I suspect that (as with peer-reviewed journals) much of what is out there is unreliable.


    I might add that I present no reason why any of you should pay the least attention to anything which I write. ?
  • I've always thought that education should be free or subsidized by donations and subsidies. The only cost or perhaps limitation is ones lack of desire to learn and then ultimatly limited by ones inability to accept the knowledge being imparted .


    Legh

  • there is a skill in evaluating evidence - what is there about this piece (on YouTube or elsewhere) which makes me rely upon it? I suspect that (as with peer-reviewed journals) much of what is out there is unreliable.




    Indeed, and that is always going to be a problem. But erroneous explanations are sadly not a uniquely internet problem. There are a great many text books for example that show lines of magnetic flux forming circles surrounding a  a  wire, and then caption it "eddy current " . So many in fact you could believe the authors did not understand it either, and have just copied it from some previous erroneous text book. Which is a pity, as it makes for the error being propagated, and even exam questions being asked, that if answered correctly get marked down. Had any of these authors taken the trouble to build a test rig with a wire and a pick up coil and a 'scope, or indeed paused to think about the direction of windings in a transformer, they would have seen the error in seconds.(if anyone wants a sketch of my rig for demonstrating just this on a lab bench, drop me a line - I am a firm believer in playing with real currents and voltages - the algebra and the field lines are only a model of real stuff happening, if you can, observe something as close as poss. to the real stuff.)


    In some ways, the internet can be an method for better error correction. As an example, consider the many who have contributed to the drafts for comment of the more recent versions of the regs and similar standards - 20 years ago that would simply not have been possible, and it took several years for a new issue to do the rounds, and I suspect in many cases the errata simply never got there at all.  This does mean the modern standards teams have had to up their game as well of course - having been an assistant convenor for a while in one small part of the 3G phone standards, I can say from first hand that juggling conflicting contributions some from parties with an axe to grind,  and other things well meaning folk have emailed in after the deadline to decide how to get things approved at committee that actually look like a proper document and not a cut-and shut is not easy.

    But I agree, you need your critical faculties switched on.



  • mapj1:



    But erroneous explanations are sadly not a uniquely internet problem....




    Agreed, but the internet is particularly bad.
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  • Indeed yes.

    It`s amazing how false facts propogate.

    "It must be true cos it`s on facebook!".

    "It`s a well known fact" (Lots of people believe it therefore it becomes true).

    That sketch of zone around a bathroom hand basin profilated for ages.
  • I have subjected my wife to a few of these and other YouTube videos, my reviews of her reviews of the videos would probably make better reading than my own reviews of the videos.


    When watching them together there are tuts, sighs and exclamations from both of us, usually for different reasons, but not always!


    Andy B.