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Fire alarm panel supply

Good morning.

I have a question that may sound silly so excuse my ignorance in advance

I have a Fire Alarm Panel

This is going to be fed through FP200.

However the installation of the FP200 would need an RCD because it is chased within a stud wall less than 50mm from the surface.

Can I omit the RCD on the grounds that it is a critical system for the safety of people?

Is there anything like that in BS7671?

It seems really counter intuitive to use an RCD on a Fire Alarm Panel...

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    OK - agreed, that there is no mention now of skilled and instructed persons - I was just trying to get the OP to think about the risk hierarchy that he is trying to address with the design given the supply is a part of a life safety system


    If the fire alarm supply cable is buried in zone, then is there a very real, credible risk of a "strike" to that cable in this environment - I suspect not


    It may well be that the selected cable is already compliant in terms of an earthed metallic screen or sheath - it may take some calculations to prove that


    It is a requirement for a lockable isolation position so it seems entirely credible to me that the 230V supply cable would easily be installed in a length of earthed conduit from the ceiling void to the lockable isolator and then to the panel, as a flush installation


    Personally, I would try to avoid at all cost the provision of RCD protection to this circuit from a life safety safety perspective.


    BS 7671 excludes fire alarm systems compliant with BS 5839-1 - is the 230V feed to the panel actually a 230V fire alarm circuit ? -  and not covered by BS 7671 anyway.


    Regards


    OMS





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  • Former Community Member
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    OK - agreed, that there is no mention now of skilled and instructed persons - I was just trying to get the OP to think about the risk hierarchy that he is trying to address with the design given the supply is a part of a life safety system


    If the fire alarm supply cable is buried in zone, then is there a very real, credible risk of a "strike" to that cable in this environment - I suspect not


    It may well be that the selected cable is already compliant in terms of an earthed metallic screen or sheath - it may take some calculations to prove that


    It is a requirement for a lockable isolation position so it seems entirely credible to me that the 230V supply cable would easily be installed in a length of earthed conduit from the ceiling void to the lockable isolator and then to the panel, as a flush installation


    Personally, I would try to avoid at all cost the provision of RCD protection to this circuit from a life safety safety perspective.


    BS 7671 excludes fire alarm systems compliant with BS 5839-1 - is the 230V feed to the panel actually a 230V fire alarm circuit ? -  and not covered by BS 7671 anyway.


    Regards


    OMS





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